Pls help Find an equation of the normal line to the graph of xe^xy = 7 at the point where x = 7 :) thank you :)
is the equation like this? \[\Large xe^{(xy)}=7\]
should we assume the y is a function of x and do an implicit derivative?
once you know the tangent line, you can always flip it around to a normal
yes @sirm3d
implicit derivative please @amistre64
i take it you might be confused about how to operate implicit stuff then?
yes :(
hmm, do you know how to work the chain rule, the product rule, and the e^x rule ?
yup
then thats all there is to this problem, is just the name of the variables that is messing with your mind :)
x e^(xy) = 7; lets clean it up by using a and b ab = 7; this is just a product rule ab'+a'b = 0 ; since a=x in this case, and b=the e parts .... xb'+x' e^(xy) = 0 ; and x' = 1 in this case xb'+e^(xy) = 0 all thats left is to determine the b'
lets define b as: e^(pq) just to make it general we know e^f(x) = f'(x) e^f(x) right?
the book might have it as: e^u derives to u' e^u
so it will wnd up as y=1n1/7 ?
since b=e^(pq); then b' is (pq)' e^(pq) (pq)' is just the product rule again: pq' + p'q, maybe, i havent seen the future yet :)
i followed what you did.. and i think i got that :) hehe
how do i get the equation of a normal line ?
good :) x e^(xy) x (xy'+y) e^(xy) + e^(xy) = 0; and x=7 7 (7y'+y) e^(7y) + e^(7y) = 0 e^(7y) (49y'+7y +1) = 0 is there a value for y that you might have missed? or maybe we solve that in the original. the key is getting to y' and defining the tangent line at the given point
once we know the tangent line: y-yo = m(x-xo) the normal line is just: y-yo = -1/m (x-xo)
7 e^7y = 7 e^7y = 1 y = 0
well that neatens this up alot lol
e^(7y) (49y'+7y +1) = 0 ; y=0 e^(0) (49y'+0 +1) = 0 49y'+1 = 0 y' = -1/49
y' is the slope of the tangent; therefore the perp to it is just 49
so, just construct the normal line using a slope of 49 and a given point of (7,0)
yayy i got it !!! y= 49x-343 ?
since the negative reciprocal of -1/49 is the slope and is 49 ?
or no... i read it from somewhere ?
that looks pretty good to me
thank youuu!!!
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=xe%5Exy+%3D+7%2C+y%3D+49x-343%2C+y%3D-%28x-7%29%2F49 the picture it shows is not very good, but it looks like it all works out ;) good luck
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