please any body can solve this.. lim x->0 cosecX-cotX/x
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\csc x - \cot x}{x}\] Familiar with L'Hopital's Rule?
whats is l hospital rule?
on second thought, I may have been hasty... forget about that :) Just focus on csc x - cot x Notice anything?
cant apply this..
Yeah, I realised (a bit too late :) ) But focus on csc x - cot x
whats i got?
\[\csc x - \cot x = \frac{1}{\sin x} - \frac{\cos x}{\sin x}=\frac{1-\cos x}{\sin x}\] Look familiar?
please tell me full steps how to solve this. i dont know L hostipal rule and i cant apply that
Okay, we might not be able to use L'Hopital, but maybe we can be sneaky with it :) First things first, though, to make it simple, carrying on from that csc x - cot x bit: \[\frac{1-\cos x}{\sin x}=\sqrt{\frac{(1-\cos x)^{2}}{\sin^{2}x}}=\sqrt{\frac{(1-\cos x)(1-\cos x)}{1-\cos^{2}x}}\] \[=\sqrt{\frac{(1-\cos x)(1-\cos x)}{(1-\cos x)(1+\cos x)}}\] cancelling out 1-cos x we get\[=\sqrt{\frac{1-\cos x}{1+\cos x}}\] Does it look familiar now?
ok than?
\[\sqrt{\frac{1-\cos x}{1+\cos x}}=\tan \left( \frac{x}{2} \right)\] Can you do it from here?
tell me please how can i solve that question..
What have we done so far? We've shown that \[\csc x - \cot x = \tan \left( \frac{x}{2} \right)\] right?
ok
For simplicity, we can let \[f(x)=\tan \frac{x}{2}\] so we can write \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\csc x - \cot x}{x}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x)}{x}\] Catch me so far?
look i got \[\lim_{x \rightarrow o}{\frac{ 1 }{ \sin }-\frac{ cosx }{ sinx }}\]
ok than?
And you'd end up with an indeterminate form... which would require the use of L'Hopital's rule... step by step, and here we go: Refer to my previous message: \[f(x)=\tan \frac{x}{2}\] So your limit is \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\csc x - \cot x}{x}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x)}{x}\] Getting it so far? The 'tricky' part comes next...
than?
What is f(0)?
you mean answer is zero 0?
No, but f(0) is 0, right?
No. terenzreignz is asking what\[\tan(\frac{0}{2})\]is
i think its zero?? am i right?
This is my most hated question and subject
Indeed \[f(0)=\tan\frac{0}{2}=\tan 0 = 0\] So... f(x) = f(x) - f(0) RIGHT? I mean, subtracting zero from a function won't affect it, right?
yeh
Okay, on another note x = x - 0 This is obvious right?
Prove: sinx=1+cosx
yeh its rite but answer is not zero//
sin x is not equal to 1 + cos x. Anyway We have established that f(x) = f(x) - f(0) and x = x - 0 THEREFORE \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x)}{x}=\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{f(x)-f(0)}{x-0}\] This must look familiar to you by now...
@terenzreignz it would be nice if u made one clear post. i dont get this problem and i very much would like to
ok
ok than whats the answer?
tell me the answer please i cant understand it?
Have you taken up derivatives?
you can just post the worked out solutions you know. later we can ask questions if we dont get any parts...
my ideas is : lim (x->0) (csc(x) - cot(x))/x = lim (x->0) [1/sin(x) - cos(x)/sin(x)]/x = lim (x->0) (1- cos(x))/(x*sin(x)) now, u can use the identity : 1-cos(x) = 2 sin^2 (x/2), so it can be = lim (x->0) 2 sin^2 (x/2)/(x*sin(x)) = lim (x->0) 2 sin(x/2) sin(x/2) /(x*sin(x)) and finally, u can use these formulas to find the value that limit lim (x->0) sinAx/Bx = A/B and also lim (x->0) sinAx/sinBx = A/B good luck
the answer in my book is 1/2 but how?
yes, correct. the answer is 1/2
can you show me the steps please??
i have showed u above, u just understanding my steps and i hope u can continue it and to get the answer
This is a summary. We started with \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\csc x - \cot x}{x}\] Now it can be shown that \[\csc x - \cot x = \tan \frac{x}{2}\] So it becomes \[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\tan\frac{1}{2}x}{x}\] But \[\tan \frac{1}{2}(0) = 0\] meaning it can be subtracted from the numerator without changing its value. Also, 0 can be subtracted from the denominator, without changing its value. The limit then becomes\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{\tan\frac{1}{2}x -\tan\frac{1}{2}(0)}{x - 0}\] But this is just the derivative of tan(x/2) evaluated at x = 0 \[\huge =\frac{d}{dx}\left[ \tan\frac{1}{2}x \right]_{x=0}\] \[\huge \frac{d}{dx}\tan\frac{1}{2}x=\frac{1}{2}\sec^{2}\frac{1}{2}x\] Now just evaluate it at x = 0
i cant///
look the last equation is lim (x->0) 2 sin(x/2) sin(x/2) /(x*sin(x)) = lim (x->0) 2 sin(x/2)/x * sin(x/2)/sinx = 2 * (1/2)/1 * (1/2)/1 = 1/2
how i cant solve it..
radEn can you do it more easy to understand>?
hellow any body here to solve it?
Read the summary.
i cant
i cant understand any thing//
how tan=sec
\[\tan(x) \neq \sec(x)\]However,\[\frac{d}{dx}\tan(x)=\sec^{2}(x)\]When combined with the chain rule:\[\frac{d}{dx}f(g(x))=f'(g(x)) \times g'(x)\]We can say that\[\frac{d}{dx}\tan(\frac{x}{2})=\frac{1}{2}\sec^{2}(\frac{x}{2})\]
hahaha i cant understand it again..
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