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OpenStudy (zahrah):

When silver combines with oxygen, a compound forms that contains 93.10% Ag by mass. What is the molecular formula of the oxide product if it is the same as the empirical formula? Express your answer as a chemical formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi, are you there? i can help you step by step if you'd like

OpenStudy (zahrah):

yes < i am here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hi :-) So,have you already started or don't know where to start?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

i do not know how can i solve ity actually

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok, no problem. Let's start by assuming we have 100 grams of the compound. So, how much Ag (silver) would we have?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(that helps a lot when they don't give an amount.... just assume an easy amount like 100 grams)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

i do not know

OpenStudy (anonymous):

100 grams * 93,1% = ?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

9310

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hehe almost.... it's a percent, right? so when we put it in the calculator, it looks different.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Try 100 * 0.931

OpenStudy (zahrah):

93.1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes, 93.1 grams. Ok good. What is the other part of the compound?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

oxygen??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So our compound is 100 grams. We have 93.1 grams of Ag (silver). How much oxygen must there be?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

6.9??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Good. Do you have an idea how to figure out the next step?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

may be i should multiply it by 2 because to formula AgO2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No, this formula won't be AgO2 actually :-)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We can figure out what it is through the numbers though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Have you heard of or worked with moles yet?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

yes

OpenStudy (zahrah):

1moles = 6.02*10^23

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that's right, good. We don't need that big number right now, thankfully. We need to know molecular masses (how much 1 mole of something weighs).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Where can you find molecular masses?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(for elements like silver, oxygen etc)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

107.9 for Ag and 16 fot O ?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

PERIODIC TABLE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes. How can we use the compound weights and the molecular weights to figure out moles?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

1MOLE=16g of O?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly. And what about the 6.9 grams of oxygen? How many moles is that?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

0.43?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yep! And the silber? How many moles of silver?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*silver sorry

OpenStudy (zahrah):

99.6?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i have a different number. How did you get that number?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

100-0.43?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

AHA

OpenStudy (zahrah):

SORRY

OpenStudy (zahrah):

I SHOULD DO LIKE THE LAST STIP

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:-) unformtunately not so easy. Tell me why this can't work: 100 grams - 0.43 moles

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HAHA yes :-)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

BECAUSE DIFFERENT WE CAN NOT DO CALCULATION IN GRAM AND MASS DIFFERENT UNIT

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes exactly. We have 0,43 moles of oxygen. So how many moles of silver?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(just like the last step like you said)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

0.86

OpenStudy (anonymous):

perfect. 0.43 moles of O 0,86 moles of Ag.... How can we get the empirical formula?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

ADD THEM TOGETHER?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

haha!! :-) no again not so easy Why did we convert into moles?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Why are moles really useful?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

I DO NOT KNOW

OpenStudy (anonymous):

moles are a ratio

OpenStudy (zahrah):

SO I SHOULD DIVIDE THEM?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When we have different weights, we can't say the formula because the weights of the elements are all different. But when we have moles, we can directly compare the amounts.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (zahrah):

AHA , THIS IS A NEW INFORMATION THANK YOU

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:-)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

0.5?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, 0.5 of what?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

OF AgO?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope... take a look at how I write it: 0.43 mol O _________________ 0.86 mol Ag

OpenStudy (anonymous):

AFter doing the division, all 'units' cancel out except the elements, right?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

YES

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.5 moles of _____ for every mole of _____

OpenStudy (zahrah):

OF O FOR EVERY MOLE OF Ag?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So it would look really strange in the formula... AgO(0.5).... we need whole numbers

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How to do that?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

may be we should multiply it by the moles of Ag

OpenStudy (anonymous):

? Maybe, but I can think of an easier way

OpenStudy (anonymous):

We just need to get rid of the fraction AgO(1/2)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

multiply it by 2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (zahrah):

2AgO?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not quite... 2 on the outside is very different from 2 on the inside of the fomula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are almost there

OpenStudy (zahrah):

1AgO??

OpenStudy (zahrah):

INSIDE 1Ag and 2O?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

IT IS NOT BALANCE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That#s right it'S not. Try thinking about it like this: 0.86 mol Ag ----------- 0.43 mol O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 moles of Ag for every mole of O = 1 molecule of ________________

OpenStudy (zahrah):

AgO

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No.... 2 moles of Ag * 1 mole of O = Ag2O

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(oops I mean + :-)

OpenStudy (zahrah):

YES BECAUSE Ag i think it doesn't take 2

OpenStudy (zahrah):

2 moles of o for every 1 mole of Ag

OpenStudy (zahrah):

2 moles of O for every mole of Ag = 1 molecule of AgO2

OpenStudy (zahrah):

IS THAT RIGHT?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the standard cation for Ag?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

Ag^+

OpenStudy (anonymous):

adnf oro?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ahhh sorry and for O?

OpenStudy (zahrah):

O^2-

OpenStudy (zahrah):

AHHHHHHHHHHHA

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ag takes +1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

O takes -2

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