A cable weighing 0.8 pounds per foot is attached to a small 80-pound robot, and then the robot is lowered into a 60-foot deep well to retrieve a 7 pound wrench. The robot gets out of the well (carrying the wrench) by climbing up the cable with one end of the cable still attached to the robot. How much work does the robot do in climbing to the top of the well?
the work i have done so far is Work = work done by robot+wrench plus work done by chain = (80+7)*60 + integral .8 *x , from 30 to 60
As the robot pulls up on the chain , the chain moves up too, but only half as far.
" As the robot pulls up on the chain , the chain moves up too, but only half as far." does that mean, rope is moving as well ? rope is being lifted + robot climbing along the rope? is that a accurate reading of your question?
the robot wants to get out of the well with his wrench. he doesnt care about the chain, he can cut it when he has reached the top, but he needs it to pull himself upon it
there will be slack of 30 feet of chain half the slack is supported by the structure (no work done), half of it was done by the robot as he climbed up
there will be 30 feet of slack of chain. Half the slack is supported by the structure (no work done), half of it was done by the robot as he climbed up
forget about the chain. there are 2 force pairs here. Robot-Rope and Robot-Gravitational field work done by the robot = -(work done by the rope on the robot)= change in the potential energy assuming the robot is still at the end of the journey.
no thats not the answer. try again, lol
@perl U posted here, you need to accept help that people have to offer. Anyway, how do u know, and if u do know, why is this question still open?
no i dont need to accept a half azz answer, and its wrong.
it wasnt even an attempt at a solution.
Then why did u ask? (u make no sense, u should just try to ask ur teacher or somthing)
i came for help. whats your problem?
anyways, here is the solution http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120421180816AA6sTZ8
My problem? If u know the answer, tell us!
Ok, nevermind... u did tell us a sec ago. anyway, if you knew the answer before, why did u leave this question open?
because i dont agree with yahoo answers ,
it might be wrong
@perl I can imagine this scenario as follows: Rope is being pulled using a pulley or something and simultaneously the robot climbs up the rope using friction(grip like action). if the rate of rope being pulled up = rate of ascent of robot with respect to the rope, then what you said is possible. i.e., by the time robot travel 30 ft along the rope, it will have reached the rope = 60 ft travel. but here is the deal, irrespective of all this the robot traveled a distance of 60 ft by pulling itself up applying a force equal to it weight or more. which would give us weight x distance. you don't have to integrate anything here. Had it been about work done by gravity on the whole or the rope, you need that.
Anyway, Aani probably didnt want to give u the whole answer, she probably figured u were smart enough to figure it out on ur own, was he/she wrong? And about ur "i dont agree with yahoo answers" Why did u post that here and then tell Aani he/she was wrong?
lily, you ask too many questions. figure it out , or post it on the side. you cant ask a question in my question
i dont mean to be rude, but youre out of order. this is my question
u r rude, but not about what u said 2 me. u dont make sense, and it is making me mad, so im out of here.
no, this is my question . it would be rude if it was your question
i doubt aani even knew the solution, so shut up
@Aani here is what I think the answer is (80+7)*60 + integral .4x on [30,60]
good bye.
aani, you do have to integrate, unless youre using some sort of center of gravity
the robot is climbing up the rope using his own energy (work). he is not being pulled up .
@perl Yes, Your answer would be correct if the robot is climbing twice as fast as the rope being pulled up. in which case we have to add the weight of tailing rope as well. But that's not that question, is it?
aani, this problem has NOTHING to do with the speed at which the robot is climbing. work = force * distance,
aani, maybe you should leave if you dont have a clue whats going on , thanks
goodbye lillybeth, stop typing
Yes, You are right. I misread the question.
@perl just noticed this, DO NOT tell me to shut up. :-O .... :-( jerk. u dont know how many times i wanted to tell u to shut up, but i didnt just to be a bit nicer. By the way, perl, maybe its u who doesnt have a clue about what u r talking about. Shut up and be a little kinder in ur responses. :-) (sigh... satisfaction.)
this is my question, you are rude telling me how to ask a question and judging me. read your comments . aani made a mistake and was a man about it. what about you>?
@perl @lillybeth123 No big deal people. It's simple problem.
why do i have to be kind, . this is my question, ok. i help people plenty, i dont have to be kind. im neutral
lilly, i guess you havent done many math problems, you dont get it. this is not a time or place to hold hands and such
you are out of line to tell me that i cant tell someone he was wrong. and HE ADMITTED IT < ROFL
oh shut up. Im leaving now, i will come back if i find the answer.
no i wont shut up, youre out of line again. this is my question
I dont have to stop typing, adios!
you said that 10 minutes ago
ur agravating.
lily, thats your opinion. i am logical
@perl Are you sure you've got what you wanted? I am not so sure. Do you understand it completely?
no, i have a different answer , no worries man
i just wanted to know if its right. i think its wrong
but you dont seem to be an expert on this, so i cant take your solution
oh no , lilly has returned -ducks for cover-
Um, guys, I posted ur question at another homework site, and i know the people pretty well, and they usually answer pretty quik.
shut up perl, im trying to help. u obviously dont know how to do it. and my name is not lilly.
lilly, what site ?
lilly, your handle is lillybeth. how would i know your *real* name
u could call me by my real name, because it is in my profile, smart alec. go to : http://www.freemathhelp.com/forum/threads/79327-I-m-not-sure-what-this-is-really-important-please-help!?p=327786#post327786 to see ur qustion.
you cant expect me to know your real name, thats all im saying. right?
yes I can, go 2 my profile. p.s. Hannah
ok , one sec
ok hannah , thanks for posting the question. that was very nice of you .
:-)
do they respond quickly
this may not be the right forum though
usually. u should keep checking on it though. I think its close enough to the right forum. They'll answer. im pretty sure.
ok , thanks. i might close this question and post it again. im gonna take a break , do you need help with math?
Nope. See ya later.
lilly make me your fan so i can message you
I did.
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