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OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ d }{ dx } \left[ \ln (\ln x) \right]\]

hartnn (hartnn):

do you know chain rule ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i know chain rule

hartnn (hartnn):

so, did you try this ? what u got ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so do i just find \[\ln (1/x)\]

hartnn (hartnn):

first we find derivative of outer function, then inner. ok, let me give you an example : if y = sin (ln x) then y' = cos (ln x) * [d/dx (ln x)] = cos (ln x) *(1/x) here, sin was outer function, so we have cos (ln x) can u try now for ln (ln x ) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but isn't the outer function ln(x) as well?

hartnn (hartnn):

here, yes.

hartnn (hartnn):

what i gave was just another example.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You are misunderstanding the chain rule. D(f(g(x)) is equal to f'(g(x))g'(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Not f'(g'(x))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i understand but then isn't it \[\frac{ 1 }{ x \ln x }*\frac{ 1 }{ x }\]

hartnn (hartnn):

why the extra 1/x ? 1/x will come once only, right ? as d/dx (ln x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isn't it f '(gx)*g'(x)

hartnn (hartnn):

\((\ln (\ln x))' = (1/(\ln x))(\ln x)'= 1/ [x \ln x]\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Let's try replacing the inner ln(x) with u

hartnn (hartnn):

here, f' (g(x)) = 1/ ln x because f'(x) would have been 1/x

hartnn (hartnn):

es, if you are getting confused, try substitution method.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

f'(ln(u))= u'/u where u=lnx so u' = 1/x and u = ln x so f' = 1/xlnx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh I see I was basically doing a step twice

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Correct

hartnn (hartnn):

k..with some practice, you'll be able to do it mentally :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks guys for taking the time out to help me. Especialy you hartnn because I see you have a lot of followers.

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