Question
Wher is it ?
|dw:1361637181191:dw| Given \[q_1=-q_2\] I have to find the potential difference. Here is what I got so far..... \[V_1=\frac{kq_1}{r_1}\rightarrow q_1=\frac{V_1r_1}{k}\] \[V_2=\frac{kq_2}{r_2} \rightarrow q_2=\frac{V_2 r_2}{k}\] \[V_1 r_1=-V_2r_2\] \[V_1r_1+V_2r_2=0\] but I have to get delta V
I probably shouldn't cancel out the k's
the k's do cancel out. I tried it another way \[\frac1k(V_1r_1-V_2r_2)=0\]
q1 is in the inside?
q_1 is on the inside and it's positive q_2 is on the outside and it's negative
I can set q_1 equal to q_2 correct? since they are equal but opposite in charge?
yes, so you can factor it out by superposition\[\sum_i\vec E_i=\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0r_i}\]
elaborate.... how did we add the electric field into the equation?
I'm trying to do this from scratch, but I guess I'm a little rusty, hold on please
yeah no prob :)
\[\Delta V=-\int\limits_C\vec E\cdot d\vec\ell=-\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0}\int_a^b\frac{dr}{r^2}\]or is it 2q... I should find something to double-check, but the rest is right
oh I see....
it's just q, but you are using a different formula
your formula is the same, of course. You are probably just highlighting the connection to potential energy and voltage.
Does that mean that \(q=k\Delta Vr\) ?
\[q=k\Delta Vr=\frac1{4\pi\epsilon_0}\cdot\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0 r^2}\cdot r\]so no :p
how about this: \[\Delta V=-\frac Er\] \[\frac{kq}{r}=-\frac E r\] \[q=\frac{-E} k\]
LOL I don't know ...haha
for the other, I eant\[q\neq\Delta Vr=\frac1{4\pi\epsilon_0}\cdot\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0 r}\cdot r=\frac q{(4\pi\epsilon_0)^2}\]about your next one\[\Delta V=-\frac{Er}q\]\(if\) E and r are in the same direction whe whole time
I think they are int he same direction since |dw:1361640455529:dw| correct?
in this case, yes
oh yay! So what would we do with that relationship? \[\Delta V=-\frac{Er}q\]
yes, as long as the path we are checking voltages between is parallel to the electric field lines
do we assume that that is the path?
It probably wouldn't be parallel
yeah, I mean the displacement really, we could go in the path|dw:1361640896393:dw|but the *displacement* is all that matters for calculating voltage if the field lines are parallel to it
Oh I see...
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