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OpenStudy (goformit100):

Wher is it ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

|dw:1361637181191:dw| Given \[q_1=-q_2\] I have to find the potential difference. Here is what I got so far..... \[V_1=\frac{kq_1}{r_1}\rightarrow q_1=\frac{V_1r_1}{k}\] \[V_2=\frac{kq_2}{r_2} \rightarrow q_2=\frac{V_2 r_2}{k}\] \[V_1 r_1=-V_2r_2\] \[V_1r_1+V_2r_2=0\] but I have to get delta V

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I probably shouldn't cancel out the k's

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the k's do cancel out. I tried it another way \[\frac1k(V_1r_1-V_2r_2)=0\]

OpenStudy (turingtest):

q1 is in the inside?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

q_1 is on the inside and it's positive q_2 is on the outside and it's negative

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I can set q_1 equal to q_2 correct? since they are equal but opposite in charge?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yes, so you can factor it out by superposition\[\sum_i\vec E_i=\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0r_i}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

elaborate.... how did we add the electric field into the equation?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I'm trying to do this from scratch, but I guess I'm a little rusty, hold on please

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah no prob :)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[\Delta V=-\int\limits_C\vec E\cdot d\vec\ell=-\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0}\int_a^b\frac{dr}{r^2}\]or is it 2q... I should find something to double-check, but the rest is right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh I see....

OpenStudy (turingtest):

it's just q, but you are using a different formula

OpenStudy (turingtest):

your formula is the same, of course. You are probably just highlighting the connection to potential energy and voltage.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Does that mean that \(q=k\Delta Vr\) ?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

\[q=k\Delta Vr=\frac1{4\pi\epsilon_0}\cdot\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0 r^2}\cdot r\]so no :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how about this: \[\Delta V=-\frac Er\] \[\frac{kq}{r}=-\frac E r\] \[q=\frac{-E} k\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

LOL I don't know ...haha

OpenStudy (turingtest):

for the other, I eant\[q\neq\Delta Vr=\frac1{4\pi\epsilon_0}\cdot\frac q{4\pi\epsilon_0 r}\cdot r=\frac q{(4\pi\epsilon_0)^2}\]about your next one\[\Delta V=-\frac{Er}q\]\(if\) E and r are in the same direction whe whole time

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I think they are int he same direction since |dw:1361640455529:dw| correct?

OpenStudy (turingtest):

in this case, yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yay! So what would we do with that relationship? \[\Delta V=-\frac{Er}q\]

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yes, as long as the path we are checking voltages between is parallel to the electric field lines

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do we assume that that is the path?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It probably wouldn't be parallel

OpenStudy (turingtest):

yeah, I mean the displacement really, we could go in the path|dw:1361640896393:dw|but the *displacement* is all that matters for calculating voltage if the field lines are parallel to it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh I see...

OpenStudy (turingtest):

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