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OpenStudy (anonymous):

OKay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I would first look at the criteria for determining if this is a combination problem or a permutation problem. After that, it is just plugging it into your calculator (either the nPr or nCr button, depending) unless your teacher wants to see you work it symbolically.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@kimimarie95 Better to illustrate :) In a combination, order doesn't matter...for instance ABC, ACB, BCA, BAC, CBA, CAB are all the same combination. In a permutation, order DOES matter, so those 6 are counted separately :) Which is the case for this problem?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

There are 10 seats in the front row (let's say) and the teacher's going to arrange 10 students there, from a set of 60... If you seat student A in the left-most seat, is it the same as if the student A is in the right most seat, or anywhere else?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

That's right :) When seating students, I should think order DOES matter :D I think you agree ;)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

No problem :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I don't have a calculator with me :) As long as you keyed in 60P10 I'll agree with it :D

OpenStudy (sirm3d):

i disagree. the 10 students are to seat in the first row, not to be arranged in the first row.

OpenStudy (sirm3d):

it does not matter if i seat in the far left or middle or far right. what is important is that i am seated in the first row.

OpenStudy (sirm3d):

i contend that this is a combination problem, not a permutation.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Still, the question was how many ways, and I contend (dunno what this word means, btw) that me seated at the left-most seat is a different 'way' than if I were seated at the right-most seat.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Oh, wait... @sirm3d Keyword here is ARRANGE. surely, this implies that order is to be taken into consideration?

OpenStudy (sirm3d):

yes, i agree. my laptop rebooted plenty of times today. i lost track of the real question. @terenzreignz , you are right. there is the word ARRANGE in the problem.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Technology nowadays :D

OpenStudy (sirm3d):

what registered to me while waiting for my laptop to reboot is how may ways can 10 students be seated in the first row. I completely forgot that important word ARRANGE.

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