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OpenStudy (anonymous):
If x,y are the roots of ax^2+bx+c=0 , find the equation with roots (x-y)^2 , (x+y)^2
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ANSWER= a^4x^2-2a^2(b^2-2ac)x+b^2(b^2-4ac)=0
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hartnn (hartnn):
find x^2+y^2
then (x-y)^2 = x^2-2xy+y^2
you know xy ...and x+y
so u know the roots.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(x+y)^2-2xy-2xy+(x+y)^2-2xy+2xy
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is this rgight?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
*right
hartnn (hartnn):
what was that ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
I expanded all
hartnn (hartnn):
x+y = -b/a
xy = c/a
x^2+y^2 =... ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
x^2-2xy+y^2
hartnn (hartnn):
that is (x-y)^2 ...
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but we did it last time a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab
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hartnn (hartnn):
ok...
x^2+y^2 = (x+y)^2 -xy = b^2/a^2 - c/a
got this ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yup
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-xy?
hartnn (hartnn):
sorry, -2xy
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
got it
OpenStudy (anonymous):
b^2-2ac/a^2
hartnn (hartnn):
(x-y)^2 = x^2-2xy+y^2 = b^2/a^2 -2c/a -2c/a
right ?
and (x+y)^2 = b^2/a^2
so you now have the 2 roots!
OpenStudy (anonymous):
b^2-4ac/a^2
hartnn (hartnn):
and whats that ?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
mistake
OpenStudy (anonymous):
why 2c/a 2 times
OpenStudy (anonymous):
-2c/a-2c/a
hartnn (hartnn):
(x-y)^2 = x^2-2xy+y^2 =[x^2+y^2]-2[xy]= [ b^2/a^2 -2c/a] -2[c/a]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(x+y)^2-2xy-2xy+(x+y)^2-2xy+2xy
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hartnn (hartnn):
i am not sure, whats that^
you always only write an expression (one side)
not equation
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i expanded all (x-y)^2 + (x+y)^2
hartnn (hartnn):
(x-y)^2 + (x+y)^2 = 2 (x^2+y^2)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
I think its wrong
OpenStudy (anonymous):
leave it... its wrong
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so we were here => b^2/a^2-2c/a-2c/a
OpenStudy (anonymous):
it forms b^2-2ac/a^2 am I correct?
hartnn (hartnn):
(b^2-4ac)/a^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes exactly!! sorry
OpenStudy (anonymous):
what about (x+y)^2
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hartnn (hartnn):
x+y= -b/a
(x+y)^2 = b^2/a^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
(b^2-4ac)/a^2 + b^2/a^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
the denominator should be a^4
hartnn (hartnn):
for sum of roots, denominator = a^2 is correct.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so the sum of roots is 2b^2-4ac / a^2
hartnn (hartnn):
yes.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
product of roots --> (x-y)^2 * (x+y)^2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how to do it?
hartnn (hartnn):
you know both the roots...
b^2/a^2 and (b^2-4ac)/a^2
just take this product...
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
hartnn (hartnn):
product of roots = b^2(b^2-4ac)/a^4
now can you get to the answer ?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
yes
hartnn (hartnn):
ok, good :)