Convert (-4,6) and (-9,6) to polar points
@Koikkara
@aravin.....hope u know this bttr than me... http://facultypages.morris.umn.edu/~mcquarrb/teachingarchive/Precalculus/Lectures/PolarCoordinates.pdf refer....
i did r=sqrtx^2+y^2 but it didn't work
What didn't work?
\[\sqrt{(x^2)+(y^2)}\]
Hey, @abc123! Just do it like the other one! r = sqrt(x²+y²)=sqrt((-4)²+6²) Maybe problem w. brackets ?
thats what i did. i got 2sqrt13 but it said i was wrong
Well, \(\sqrt{52}=\sqrt{4 \cdot 13}=\sqrt{4}\cdot\sqrt{13}=2\sqrt{13}\), so that is OK!
but it says i am wrong so i don't know what to do
What angle did you get? Could that be the problem?
arccos(-4/2sqrt13)
That is about 2.16 radians. That is also OK. You just gave the right answer. Maybe the error occured after you gave the conversion of the other point, (-9, 6)?
no its two seperate questions
@ZeHanz ...i applaud You for the Explanation....Keep it up...!
Well @abc123!, sometimes you are right and the book, teacher, or whatever computer program is wrong! Don't bother with it anymore, and go on with what you were doing!
ok
i am also having probs with (13,6) and (20,2)
@Koikkara: thx for the support!
@abc123! What r's have you found?
for (13,6) i have sqrt205 and for (20,2) i have 2sqrt101. i know they r right. just the angles r wrong
OK, let's look into that. What values did you get?
arccos(13/sqrt205) and arccos(20/2sqrt101)
There could be a slight problem with the last one: type arccos(20/(2sqrt101)) to be sure 20 gets divided not only by 2, but also by sqrt101.
no i converted it to a decimal
and got .996686525?
.09966865.....
Right again. Are doing some kind of online test, where you have to type in your answers?
its online hw not a test
Are you shown the "right" answers at any time?
after the session is closed which is tuesday at 10
And you have to give the answers in decimal format? How many decimals?
hold on
it wont let me put in arccos so i think it has to be a decimal
Could you try arctan? I.e. arctan(6/13) for the point (13,6)
it says that 'Can't take acos of 100.498756211209" for arccos(20/2sqrt101) but i got the angle for (13,6)
arccos worked for (13,6)
We've found it!
@abc123! To Convert from Cartesian to Polar When you know a point in Cartesian Coordinates (x,y) and want it in Polar Coordinates (r,θ) you solve a right triangle with two known sides. Example: What is (12,5) in Polar Coordinates? Use Pythagoras Theorem to find the long side (the hypotenuse): r2 = 122 + 52 r = √ (122 + 52) r = √ (144 + 25) = √ (169) = 13 Use the Tangent Function to find the angle: tan( θ ) = 5 / 12 θ = tan-1 ( 5 / 12 ) = 22.6° (to one decimal) What is tan-1 ? It is the Inverse Tangent Function. Tangent takes an angle and gives you a ratio, Inverse Tangent takes a ratio (like "5/12") and gives you an angle. Answer: the point (12,5) is (13, 22.6°) in Polar Coordinates. So to convert from Cartesian Coordinates (x,y) to Polar Coordinates (r,θ): r = √ ( x2 + y2 ) θ = tan-1 ( y / x )
It's what I told you earlier about 20/2sqrt101. it should be: 20/(2sqrt101)
ok. let me try
@niksva: thanks for the help, but we've got a "technical" problem here, I'm afraid...
yup it worked. but now i can't get anything for (-9,6) and (-4,6)
i got 2sqrt13 for (-4,6) and 3sqrt13 for (-9,6). it says its wrong
The r's we can do w/o calculator: sqrt(81+36)=sqrt(117)=3sqrt(13) sqrt(16+36)=sqrt(52)=2sqrt(13)
yeah thats what i got
OK now the thetas: arctan(6/(-9))=-.5880. Adding pi gives 2.5536 arctan(6/(-4))=-.9828. Adding pi gives 2.1588
how do i put that in without a decimal
arctan(6/(-9))+pi ?
Can you input a greek letter pi?
yeah i can and its wrong
No, it's right, but the stupid prog doesn't know...
ok whatever thanks for helping
YW!
try putting in parens i got 2sqrt13 for (-4,6) try 2 sqrt(13) for the angle try acos(-4/sqrt(52))
ok
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