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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Solve for x EQUATION BELOW

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ -49 }{ 864 }\pi^2(\sin \frac{ 7 }{ 36 }\pi x) -3\sin(\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }\pi x) =0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

dividing over gives just : \[\sin(\frac{ 7 }{ 36 } \pi x) -3\sin(\frac{ 7 }{ 12 }\pi x)=0\]

OpenStudy (zehanz):

It has the form sinx-3sin3x=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does it? lol

OpenStudy (zehanz):

7/12 = 3* 7/36

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh indeed it does. What does that do for us though? lol

OpenStudy (zehanz):

Don't know if it does :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly lol

OpenStudy (zehanz):

Could try to use sum formula for sin: sin3x=sin(2x+x)=sin2xcosx+cos2xsinx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i tried seeing what wolfram explained it as and it used some crazy stuff that I totally didn't understand like " weirstrass substitution"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe we could use that

OpenStudy (zehanz):

OK, I think I am on to something:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hooray!

OpenStudy (zehanz):

ust leave out the 7/36 pi stuff for now: Then: sinx=3sin3x sinx=3(sin2xcosx+cos2xsinx). Divide everything by sinx: 1=3(sin2xcosx/sinx+cos2x). Use sin2x=2sinxcosx formula:

OpenStudy (zehanz):

1=3(sin2xcosx/sinx+cos2x) 1/3=2sinxcosx/sinx +2cos²x-1 1/3=2cosx+2cos²x-1 2cos²x+2cosx-4/3=0 This is a quadratic equation with cosx as variable.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I am not really following much of this, but if you come to a good answer I"ll look back at it and try to see your logic. So don't pause for me! lol

OpenStudy (zehanz):

I know you can! Change it (by dividing by 2 and multiplying with 3) to: cos²x+cosx-2=0 Using quadratic formula: \[\cos x=\frac{ -1 \pm \sqrt{1+8} }{ 2 }=-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }\pm \frac{ 3 }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, ok. I sorta see where you're coming from. I actually just emailed my teacher to make sure this wasn't a typo or something because solving this seems WAY out of my league

OpenStudy (zehanz):

Now, one of these numbers is -2, and that is not a valid cos-value. The other one is 1, and gives us: (after putting back in the 7/36 pi stuff):\[\cos(\frac{ 7 }{ 36 }\pi x)=1\]

OpenStudy (zehanz):

That is a good idea. If it is a typo, we are doing all this just for nothi... fun. :)

OpenStudy (zehanz):

BTW, it seems now that we have come to an equation you can solve...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you say so, lol i would really appreaciate if you could maybe follow through with your thought. I have a feeling that I really am gonna have to do this

OpenStudy (zehanz):

I'm not sure what you mean.. I'm from Holland, and mostly I speak Dutch :p

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, ok. Sorry.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Could you please go ahead and solve the equation out if you could.

OpenStudy (zehanz):

Yes: \[\cos(\frac{ 7 }{ 36 }\pi x)=1 \Leftrightarrow \frac{7}{36}\pi x = 0\](of cours you could add 2kpi to get all the solutions, but idk if you want them all). So this leads only to x=0. Sounds too good to be true?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I"m gonna go with it! Thank you so so so very much as usual

OpenStudy (zehanz):

YW! Let me hear when you have talked about it with your teacher!

OpenStudy (zehanz):

@gabie1121: I made a mistake :( Somewhere up I had: 1=3(sin2xcosx/sinx+cos2x) 1/3=2sinxcosx/sinx +2cos²x-1 <<<< this is wrong! It is: 1/3=2sinxcosxcosx/sinx +2cos²x-1 1/3=2cos²x+2cos²x-1 This will be: 4cos²x=4/3 cos²x=1/3, so\[\cos x = \pm \sqrt{\frac{1}{3}}=\pm \frac{1}{3}\sqrt{3}\] This cannot be solved easily. But there is also good news: because we divided by sinx along the way, we left out the solution sinx=0, which means x=0, pi, 2pi... So our solutions x=0 is still there! Here is a drawing of the grapgh of y=sinx-3sin3x: YOu can see the k*pi solutions along with the difficult ones...

zepdrix (zepdrix):

Was the \(\large \frac{-49}{864}\pi^2\) multiplying the first term, or the entire equation on the left? Your brackets are a little funky so it's hard to tell.

OpenStudy (zehanz):

AFAIK, it was the entire equation, that's why it was cancelled.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah, it was the entire equation

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