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what do u want to prove in 24/p^2-1 to be prime as well?
the question is not clear...
no, we need to prove that 24 divides \[p^2 - 1\]
it is not necessary a prime if that is the case
for example, 24 divides 5^2 - 1
it also divides 7^2 - 1
and so on
all p's are primes greater than or equal to 5
yes i can prove that, but still 24/49-1=24/48=1/2
so u will get a fraction, so that is ok with u?
no it wont be a fraction, 24 | 48 which is 2
it means 48/24 i.e 24 divides 48
you mean u take the reciprocal then
nope I think you're being mistaken
have done something called mod?
"|" is a popular notation in math and it means "divides"
\[\frac{24}{p^2-1}\]
no it's the other way around
do you understand what I mean?
oh ok
i will prove it don't worry
eg: 2 | 4
yes its like the mod thing in a way
i hope u tried it for 5 ..you will get a hint if u do that
something like induction?
use the mod method
what do you mean by mod method?
prove it in an elementary way, induction is not true, because if it was true then u could prove prime number theorem to infinite
if u think this can be proven by induction you would get $1000000
That's not true, I would get that if I prove Riemann Hypothesis
infact you will be able to separate 24 out for every prime number >=5 which leaves us with a sequence like \(\dfrac{(1)24}{24}\),\(\dfrac{(2)24}{24}\),\(\dfrac{(3)24}{24}\) .........
of course you can do it with induction :)
yes but if u can prove any formula by induction that means u can prove prime number theorem
Prime number theorem has been proved already
i mean any claim of a formula to do with prime
well prime numbers was proven by Newman and before that Possian
relying on Gauss Data analysis, trust me i know what i am talking about
i teach the book the development of prime number
yup you're right Gauss' guess was quite accurate
anyway were you implying that I can use modular arithmetic here?
well it wasn't a guess, it was his counting methodology that lead him to conclude 1/ln(x) from the data, it is a conjuncture accurately speaking
I do see a pattern as mentioned by Aravind
how long can u see that pattern?
without getting random at some point
it's infinite
i disagree sorry, unless it is ok at ur level of understanding then let it be but i would give a zero for that...
show me how would that patten work with a prime number of 1000000000000 digits, can u prove it?
this way u may understand my point
unless ur pattern is bounded to a certain prime number, otherwise using induction for p>=5 does not sound right to me
i am surprised @mathsmind you havent provided her a solution .
don't be surprise although am a person who does not like to argue a lot but for the sake that some of you don't mislead the mathematical solution, i will explain to u the whole point
An incomplete induction in prime number can not provide a general pattern due to the approximate random behavior of prime numbers
At the very beginning i immediately said use mod method, and for someone who is studying number theory must with a blink of an eye see the solution, so here is one case of the solution and u can try to find the other cases
\[p \ge 5 \space \longrightarrow \space p^2=1 \mod 24\]
solving for p = 1 mod 6 yields to 4 cases:
(1) p = 1 mod 24 (2) p = 7 mod 24 (3) p = 13 mod 24 (4) p = 19 mod 24
now the question i will ask for both of u: find the other cases for this solution
summary if prime number could be solved by induction then we would not have this complicated issue about prime numbers...
Take the RH, why do we need to go into the world of Fourier series then Laplace transform in order to visualize a pattern for prime number in the eye of RH
conclusion : hence incomplete induction can never provide a complete pattern for the above proof
let ur teachers come and debate me about this case, if they want
so don't say i did not provide a solution, i provided an inside out mathematical and philosophical solution
There are three types of people, one those who think they know but they don't know, those who knows that they don't know, and those who don't know that they don't know, never mind those who know that they know
so any one can classify themselves in any means
any argument after what i said i will consider it a waste of time
see ya all later
All izz well :D
good i wish u all the best
^^ funny that you wasted your time on that
it depends on the students that like wasting time hehehe
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