Find dx/dy for the following function: y=sinx+5e^.4x dx/dy =
is it dx/dy?
what does dx/dy equals
I just want to make sure the question, because dx/ dy !=dy/dx
if it is dx/ dy. it's not easy to solve. you must solve for x first , then take derivative respect to y.
it will behave implicitly
i think she means dy/dx
i thought i had to find the derivative and then solve for y
@mathsmind you help her, ok?
no u help her
can u double check the question plz
it must be dy/dx at ur level
\[Find \frac{ dx }{ dy } for the following function. Y = sinx + 5e ^{0.4x}\]
ok
u allowed everyone to escape from this question hehehehe
lol i know, i wish i could escape it too
dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx)
@jim_thompson5910 rescue me please
ok i will solve it all it is implicit differentiation but in terms of x
so when u diff sin(x) it will be cos(x)dx/dy
and y will become 1 when u differentiate it
ok
Just find dy/dx and take the reciprocal.
nope don't do that
they are not the same
Look, dx/dy = 1/(dy/dx)
no it does not work like that
I hope you're kidding. I'm not manipulating fractions
look multiply both sides
u r missing the chain rule this is calculus not algebra
the case where u use a reciprocal is by using the chain rule and cancelling each term out
Can't you implicit differentiate in this situation?
implicitly*
yes that is different from ur fomula
im even more confused...
he wants u to use L rule
which is similar to what i said about the chain rule
Lebenz derived a formula from the chain rule
\[\large y=\sin x+5e^{0.4x}\] \[\large 1=(\cos x +2e^{0.4x})\frac{dx}{dy}\]
nope i told u don't do that, unless if u want to apply Lebenz rule u need to take the inverse of the function then take the reciprocal ...
because calculus is about functions and expansions
read that carefully If the derivative of y = f(x) is dy/dx, then the derivative of the inverse function which expresses x in terms of y is given by the formula
in other words ur Lebenz works if x= sin(y)+5e^y
so u can take the inverse of the function then apply the rule ok
i told u they are not the same but thanks anyway for bribing the topic up
so take the inverse of the function then use the rule
or solve it implicitly as i started
if the case was simple like this then implicit differentiation would have never exist
\[y = \sin(x) + e^{0.4x} \longrightarrow 1=\frac{dx}{dy}\cos(x)+2\frac{dx}{dy}e^{0.4x}\]
the method u use is solving this in an implicit way
take dx/dy as a common factor
well @Xavier ur method also works congratulation!
so both methods work fine, actually u made me come with a new theory in math, or a different proof for Leben'z formula. although maths is not my major, but i will write a new paper on this and publish it
works*
not just that i will change my proof for Kepler's laws of motion ...
Join our real-time social learning platform and learn together with your friends!