find the derivative f(x)=log3x
\[f(x)=\log _{3}x\]
I'm beginning to think that you're a math robot
bleep blorp...i mean...crap I've been discovered lol
Seriously!
Use the rule that If \[\Large f(x) = \log_{b}(x)\] then \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{1}{x*\ln(b)}\]
So in this case, b = 3
again this is just another rule to learn...but it's very similar to the rule that If \[\Large f(x) = \ln(x)\] then \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{1}{x}\]
okay so 1/xln3
so that's something to connect
so x*1/3?
x/3
yes, in this case, \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{1}{x*\ln(3)}\]
no you can't get rid of the ln that easily
dang!
yeah I wish you could, but you can't
maybe it's prudent to show where that came from? After all... \[\huge \log_3x=\frac{\ln \ x}{\ln \ 3}\] And now, the \[\huge \frac1{\ln 3}\]is just another constant.
good point terenzreignz, that shows how the two connect
alright, so this boils down to the derivative being 1/xln3
I cant simplify or anything?
yes \[\Large f^{\prime}(x) = \frac{1}{x*\ln(3)}\]
^ That's as simple as it can be :)
first use change of base then use natural log log3x can be written as using change of base property of log \[\Large \log_{3}(x)=\frac{\ln(x)}{\ln(3)}\] now take the constant ln(3) out \[\Large \frac{d}{dx}(\frac{\ln(x)}{\ln(3)})=\frac{1}{\ln(3)}*\frac{d}{dx}(\ln(x)\] \[\Large \frac{1}{\ln(3)}*\frac{1}{x}=\frac{1}{\ln(3)x}\]
you can rearrange terms I guess, but it's not going to get any simpler
alright...that seems okay
not too hard, until i look at the next set and theres RADICALS!
Radicals are just fractional exponents... just sayin' ;)
\[f(x)=2^{x}\sqrt{x}\]
so that changes to 1/x?
Use the product rule, but remember that \[\huge f(x)=2^x \cdot x^{\frac12}\]
how does that apply to the fraction though
the radical i mean
Power rule :) \[\huge \frac{d}{dx}x^m=mx^{m-1}\]for any real number m.
So I can use that for the 2^x and make it 2x but I still have that times the radical x
No! The power rule applies when x is the BASE, not when x is the EXPONENT. We'll get to that later. For now, what's the derivative of the square root of x? \[\huge \frac{d}{dx}\sqrt x=\frac{d}{dx}x^{\frac12}=?\]
1/x?
Nope...Remember the power rule...\[\huge \frac{d}{dx}x^m=mx^{m-1}\]and take m = 1/2
1/2(radical x)^-1/2
This? \[\huge \frac12 \sqrt x^{-\frac12}\]?
yes
Well, in that case, no. We already converted the radical to a fractional exponent, why did you put it back? :P
I guess I missed that part!
So... care to modify your answer? :P
You were *almost* right, though.
so just take out the radical
Yeah :D \[\huge \frac12x^{-\frac12}=\frac1{2\sqrt x}\] Ok? :P
okay!
So, no questions on the part of... \[\huge \frac{d}{dx}\sqrt x = \frac{1}{2 \sqrt{x}} \]
well now that i am able to see where you got the 1/2 from I understand
So, shall we proceed? :)
absolutely
Now, work on the derivative of \[\huge 2^x\]Any idea how to proceed?
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