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OpenStudy (anonymous):

R^n is open and closed set.. how?? please help

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

R^n is an open set, right? That much is clear?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

In that given any element x of R^n, there exists a neighbourhood of x contained entirely in R^n

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Remember... if a set is not open, it doesn't necessarily mean it's closed. In a similar notion... open does not necessarily mean not closed ;)

OpenStudy (turingtest):

you may need to bring this question to mathstackexchange.com this may also help http://www.tricki.org/article/To_prove_that_a_set_is_open_or_closed_use_basic_theorems_rather_than_direct_arguments

OpenStudy (turingtest):

very interesting question, I thought \(\mathbb R^n\) was closed

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

It is. It is also open.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

A closed set is simply a set whose complement is open, right? :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

hmmm.. \[\huge (\mathbb{R}^n)^C=\emptyset\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And proving that the null set is open is tricky :D or not

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Suppose the null set is not open. Then there exists an element in the null set such that it has a neighbourhood not entirely contained in the null set. And that's a contradiction in itself. "There exists an element in the null set..." is a contradiction. Hence, trivially, the null set is open, hence R^n is closed

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I follow your argument, but don't know enough set theory to be sure you can use the null set as an example. I don't see why not though.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So... simply put... the metric space is R^n and \[\huge \mathbb{R}^n\cap (\mathbb{R}^n)'=\emptyset\]

OpenStudy (turingtest):

I will have to take your word for that, bro. Like I said, I know very little set theory. Nice job!

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Thanks :) Now it's off to bed for me :D

OpenStudy (turingtest):

g'night!

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