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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

)find center and radius of -x^2+y^2+4y-16=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can start by grouping the y's together and then I believe that you have to complete the square for that one

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know its a hyperbola if that makes a difference

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well it's good that you know what the graph looks like

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-x^2+4y^3-16=0 ??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

looks like this https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=hyperbola+-x^2%2By^2%2B4y-16%3D0+

OpenStudy (phi):

-x^2+y^2+4y-16=0 you should "complete the square" on this part: y^2 +4y can you do that ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[y^2+4y-x^2=16\] \[(y+2)^2-x^2=16+4=20\] \[\frac{(y+2)^2}{20}-\frac{x^2}{20}=1\] i think

OpenStudy (phi):

the distance from the center to the focus for either an ellipse or a hyperbola.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it wants to know the foci

OpenStudy (phi):

First, what is the center ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(0,-2)

OpenStudy (phi):

next, what are a^2 and b^2

OpenStudy (phi):

pattern match with the equation sat figured out for you.

OpenStudy (phi):

compare to the standard equation for a hyperbola

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a=2^2 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a^2=2^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

this it??

OpenStudy (phi):

first, do you see sat's equation? 2nd, do you know the standard equation of a hyperbola ? in this case y^2/a^2 - x^2/b^2 = 1 (I left out the h,k stuff)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im confused?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont know the equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for standard form

OpenStudy (phi):

by standard form, I mean the version with a and b in it instead of numbers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a^2+b^2=c

OpenStudy (phi):

because you want to match it with your equation \[ \frac{(y+2)^2}{20}-\frac{x^2}{20}=1 \] to figure out what a^2 and b^2 are

OpenStudy (phi):

does this remind you ? http://www.mathwarehouse.com/hyperbola/graph-equation-of-a-hyperbola.php

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a^2= 20 b^2=20 right ??

OpenStudy (phi):

yes. next we use a^2 + b^2 = c^2 **** notice it is c^2 not just c) c is sometimes called the radius can you find c ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

20+20=c^2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

40=c^2

OpenStudy (phi):

so far so good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now what?

OpenStudy (phi):

take the square root of both sides sqrt(c^2) is c (which is why we do this) sqrt(40)= sqrt(2*2*10)= 2 sqrt(10) (this is the exact answer, but not convenient) or about 6.32 using a calculator

OpenStudy (phi):

c= 6.32

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok

OpenStudy (phi):

c is the distance from the center to the focus the center is (0,-2). we go up 6.32 to get to the focus (or down to get to the other one) one focus is at (0,4.32) (to do this, we need to know what this looks like, which is always a mystery to me until I plot it) but sat gave a link to a plot of it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok..

OpenStudy (phi):

the question says find center and radius so are you done ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no it wants the foci

OpenStudy (phi):

can you work out the other one ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what do u mean? i dont know how to find the foci

OpenStudy (phi):

we have a "smiley/ frown" version I gave you the focus for the smiley part. look at this https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=hyperbola+-x^2%2By^2%2B4y-16%3D0+ and look at this http://www.mathwarehouse.com/hyperbola/graph-equation-of-a-hyperbola.php this one shows you where the foci are. next remember that the focus is 6.32 away from the center.

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