help help help. Determine the extrema of f(x)= (-4)* x/ x^2+7 below on the given interval (a) on [1,4] The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ?? (b) on [1,5] The minimum is ?? and the maximum is ??
do we use the quadratic formula for this one?
did you find the derivative?
derivative is 1*x^2+7-2x*(-4)*x/ (x^2+7)^2
from there.. x^2-6x+7/x^4+14x^2+49
then i = to 0
and i'm left with x^2-6x+7
however, i can't factor this... so do i use quadratic formula?
yeah I did not check your math, however if it is correct then use the quadratic formula.
can you try the problem also?
i want to know if its correct.
"derivative is 1*x^2+7-2x*(-4)*x/ (x^2+7)^2" That first term shouldn't be a 1. The derivative of -4x is not 1. I think that should fix it up for you.
yes i must of typed it wrong. but that's exactly what i got here.
\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(-4)}(x^2+7)-(-4x)\color{royalblue}{(2x)}}{(x^2+7)^2}\]
then after..
Set it equal to zero, then multiply both sides by the denominator. Don't do long division or anything silly like that.
yeah i ended up with x^2-6x+7/x^4+14x^2+49
??
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\[\large 0=\frac{-4x^2-28+8x^2}{(x^2+7)^2}\]Multiplying both sides by the denominator gives us,\[\large 0=-4x^2-28+8x^2\] I don't understand how you got the x term in the middle.
how do i get the derivative. can you show me?
\[\large f(x)=\frac{-4x}{x^2+7}\] Remember the quotient rule, it will tell us to setup the derivative like this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(-4x)'}(x^2+7)-(-4x)\color{royalblue}{(x^2+7)'}}{(x^2+7)^2}\]The blue terms are the ones we need to differentiate.
yeah
according to the quotient rule.
Which gives us this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{\color{royalblue}{(-4)}(x^2+7)-(-4x)\color{royalblue}{(2x)}}{(x^2+7)^2}\] Which simplifies to this,\[\large f'(x)=\frac{-4x^2-28+8x^2}{(x^2+7)^2}\]Right?
oh ok thank u!
then it's 4x^2-28 right?
Yes. From there you can find a critical point.
radical + or -7
?
@zepdrix
i appreciate your help a lot. i just need time to figure this out... :(
Yah that sounds right. So we have a couple steps now. We plug our `critical points` into the original function, and write down the \(\large f\) values they produce. Then, plug the `end points` into the original function, and write down the \(\large f\) values they produce. Then simply compare the \(\large f\) values. The largest will be your maximum. The smallest, your minimum.
\[\large x \in\left[1,4\right]\]These are our end points, 1 and 4. The end points of our interval.
is the first critical point: -2 radical 7/7 ?
thats the positive criticla point that i used.
@zepdrix
yah that sounds right.
and the f (- radical 7) is 4 radical 7?
hope it's right :(
are you checking to see if i am doing the problem correct?
very worried, please help me.
no the negative root should produce 2sqrt7/7 i think.
?
it's not \[\frac{ -2\sqrt{7} }{ 7 }\] ??
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