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OpenStudy (hba):

Stats help required

OpenStudy (hba):

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

If I have a set of two number \(\{a,b\}\), what is the mean and what is the standard deviation of those?

OpenStudy (hba):

a+b/2

OpenStudy (hba):

Sqrt[(Sum(Xi-(a+b/2)/2)]

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

\[\frac1{250}\cdot\sum_{i=1}^{250}x_i=15.6\]\[\frac1{250}\cdot\left(100\cdot\frac1{100}\sum_{i=1}^{100}x_i+\sum_{i=101}^{250}x_i\right)=15.6\]The first addend in parenthesis is \(100\cdot15=1500\). Name the second addend \(M\) and find it. This will be the mean you need to find.

OpenStudy (hba):

I Couldn't get a word.

OpenStudy (hba):

Step by Step would be easier.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Ask a concrete question, please.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

You have a set of numbers \(\{x_1,x_2,\ldots,x_{250}\}\). You know that\[\frac1{250}\cdot\sum_{i=1}^{250}x_i=15.6\] and\[\frac1{100}\cdot\sum_{i=1}^{100}x_i=15\]The question is: what equals the sum?\[\frac1{150}\cdot\sum_{i=101}^{250}x_i\]

OpenStudy (hba):

Okay i got the first two equations but the last one i couldn't get.

OpenStudy (hba):

Are we subtracting 100 items out of it?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

To find a deviation you need to have a mean of the second group. The last sum is the mean of the second group.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Actually the set \(\{x_1,\ldots,x_{250}\}\) is divided into 2 groups: \(\{x_1,\ldots,x_{100}\}\) and \(\{x_{101},\ldots,x_{250}\}\).

OpenStudy (hba):

Got it (y).

OpenStudy (hba):

What next?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Now try to do the same thing with deviation. \[\sum_{i=1}^{100}(x_i-15)^2=\sum_{i=1}^{100}x_i^2-30\sum_{i=1}^{100}x_i-1500=9\]\[\sum_{i=1}^{250}(x_i-15,6)^2=\ldots=13.44^2\]Find the value of \(\sum_{i=101}^{250}x_i^2\) and then try to get the value of \(\sum_{i=101}^{250}(x_i-M)^2\), where \(M\) is the mean of the second group. Did you get it? Actually, this method is a bit complicated. There may be an easier method.

OpenStudy (hba):

I guess i would get it if you would explain me the general forms and then let me do some work and help me step by step.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Ok. Lets make an example which will look like your problem. Lets take a concrete set \(\{1,3,5,9\}\). And now divide it into 2 groups: \(\{1,3\}\) and \(\{5,9\}\). Find mean and standard deviation of all of these 3 groups.

OpenStudy (hba):

I know i am just terrible. :/

OpenStudy (hba):

I'll do this one later.

OpenStudy (hba):

Thanks anyways.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

If you really want to solve this, and not just to get an answer, think about it by yourself. It is not so difficult task. It is a pure math problem and not stats. Hope you will. Anyway you can ask any question anytime. Best wishes.

OpenStudy (hba):

@klimenkov I have another question Can i post that now?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Sure.

OpenStudy (hba):

Gimme a sec

OpenStudy (hba):

This one.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Variance and standard deviation are the same?

OpenStudy (hba):

No SD=Sqrt(Variance)

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Tell me honestly: do you need just answers?

OpenStudy (hba):

No

OpenStudy (hba):

Now please explain

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

If you really want to get this, you have to get what is mean and variance. What is mean for \(\{x_1,\ldots,x_n\}\) ?

OpenStudy (hba):

\[Mean=\frac{ \sum_{i=1}^{n} X_i}{ n }\]

OpenStudy (hba):

\[Variance=\frac{ \sum_{i=1}^{n}(X_i-X(mean) )^2}{n}\]

OpenStudy (hba):

@klimenkov Right?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Yes. That is right.

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Now you have\[\frac1n\sum_{i=1}^n x_i=12, \quad\frac1n\sum_{i=1}^n y_i=16\]Find\[\frac1n\sum_{i=1}^n (2x_i-3y_i+6)\]

OpenStudy (hba):

-18 right?

OpenStudy (hba):

76 for the b part?

OpenStudy (hba):

6 for part c?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Yes.

OpenStudy (hba):

For part d its 2-(5n/6)

OpenStudy (hba):

Now for the variance part, \[\ 2=\frac{ \sum_{i=1}^{n}(X_i-X(mean) ) }{ n }\] \[\ 1=\frac{ \sum_{i=1}^{n}(Y_i-Y(mean) ) }{ n }\]

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Write the answer for d), please.

OpenStudy (hba):

The answer for d is 2-5n/6

OpenStudy (hba):

No No wait.

OpenStudy (hba):

The answer to d is 1.167

OpenStudy (hba):

@klimenkov Right?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Yes.

OpenStudy (hba):

Now Variance?

OpenStudy (hba):

Did i draw the equations correctly?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

Yes.

OpenStudy (hba):

So here we know mean of x and y so should we replace it by 12 and 16 in the equations?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

You have to find the sum\[\sum_{i=1}^n (2x_i-3y_i+6-(-18))^2\]using variances that you have.

OpenStudy (hba):

Where did 18 coming from now?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

This is the mean of \(2x_i-3y_i+6\).

OpenStudy (hba):

How do we get that?

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

You count this by yourself. Look higher: -18 right?

OpenStudy (hba):

I am not getting it :/

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

\[\text{variance}=\frac1n\sum_{i=1}^n(x_i-\text{mean}(x_i))\]Now you put \(2x_i-3y_i+6\) instead of \(x_i\).

OpenStudy (hba):

How are you calculating the mean here was my question

OpenStudy (hba):

Because we have mean x as 12 and mean y as 16

OpenStudy (klimenkov):

\(\text{mean}(2x_i-3y_i+6)=-18\). Look higher you did it by yourself. There was a formula how to get it.

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