use a double or half angle formula to solve the equation in the interval [0,2pi) tan(a)+cot(a)=4sin2(a)
Only way to solve is to set to zero. So start with that.
tan(a)+cot(a)-4sin2(a)=0
like that?
Yep. Now for the fun part. Seeing which double or half will help the most.
okay what does that mean?
Well, you generlly want things to factor so that you can set each term to zero. Some things are easier to factor than others.
Oh it's fixed now.
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so whats next? what?? hah
He picked on me about letting my japanese get overed up by th number in the lower right.... so I had to fix it so the harmony of the aviutar would be maintained.
hahah ight.
OK, using their equation editor, that is with a power already, right? \[\tan(a)+\cot(a)-4\sin^2(a)=0\]
man im getting tired haha its later over here on the east coast lol
Hmmm. what about putting tan and cot in terms of sin and cos. Then seeing what pops up that might let a half or double formula (as required) clean it up?
And yah, 3 hour time difference?
tan is sin/cos and cot is cos/tan?
cot = cos/sin
woulsnt that cancel out, and it would be -4sin2(a)=0?
Not quite. You can get it to 1/(sin cos) but I think I found a better way. I was playing with it a bit, then decided to dig. Man, I really need to brush up on trig. I have a calc teacher that loves trig...
okay whats this better way. how bout you just show me how to so it. im about to fall asleep. hah please..
I am going to shortcut this a bit for speed. So you see that we can get to:\[\frac{\sin}{\cos} + \frac{\cos}{\sin}=4\sin^2\]
okay good.
\[\frac{\sin^2+\cos^2}{\sin \cos}=bla\] that can be used to jump to the double angle of \[\frac{1} {(1/2)\sin(2a))}=bla\]
Ge that step? Well, 2 steps. I pathagoreaned the top and double angled the bottom.
what does bla stand for? is that the final answer?
Just repeating the same right hand side. I was not changing it, so bla.
Now, can you see how that left hald side would simplify to get rid of the fraction?
so it equals 4sin2(a)
\[\frac{1}{\frac{\sin(2a)}{2}}=4\sin^2a \rightarrow 2\sin(2a) =4\sin^2a \rightarrow 2\sin(2a) - 4\sin^2a = 0\]
Now that looks more factorable.
what do i factor out? -2sin(a)?
Hmmm.... I know we are close. Lets see. I may need to back up a step and leave part in the 2sin cos. Lets look at the 4sin^2 now.
With half angle, that is -4(1/2 1-cos(2a))
Yah, so let me put that in there. \[2\sin a \cos a - 2 - 2 \cos(2a) \; or \; 2\sin(2a)-2-2 \cos(2a)\] does anything theremake it better..
If you did not notice, I distributed the 4 into the half angle, which got me the 2-2cos(2a)... but I messed up the sign. It should be +2cos(2a).
so the answer the sin(2a) -2 +2cos(2a) ?
Well, that is close. But if hey want you to find values of a, it is not an answer. I was aiming for factors to set to 0 and somewhere in there I did not get what I wanted.
OK. I also see this in there: \[2\sin a(\cos a - 2\sin a) = 0\]which is partially factored. But I would need to get the factors of what is inside the parantisis. Which is what I thought was going to be nicer than it ended up.
You understand where I am going with the factoring? This is like algebra. x^2+4x+3 = 0, so you factor it to (x+1)(x+3)=0 and then I can solve each part. That is how you solve this sort of equation, unless you just needed a proof that one side equals the other.
Just to make sure, is that problem \(4sin^2(a)\) or \(4sin^2(2a)\)?
4sin(2a)
no squared
OH! Ok. That was my mistake.
Well that makes all the difference!
can you show me all the work now? cause im all confused
tan(a) + cot(a) = 4sin(2a) thats the problem
Yah, I saw up above 4sin2(a) and I thought you meant squared. Big goog there on my part for not making sure earlier.
The start was good then. \[\frac{\sin a}{\cos a}+\frac{\cos a}{\sin a}-4\sin(2a)=0 \rightarrow \frac{\sin^2 a + \cos^2 a}{\cos a \sin a}-4\sin(2a)=0\] \[\rightarrow \frac{1}{\cos a \sin a}-4sin(2a)=0\]Wit me to there?
yeah, is that it?
Not quite. Then I did that step where we went to this (but corrected):\[2\sin(2a)-4\sin(2a)=0\] which simplifies as:\[-2\sin{(2a)}=0\]
So find every part of the interval where \(\sin{(2a)}=0\) and you have the solutions. There should be a small herd of them with that.
On \([0,2\pi)\) you should have something like 4 or 8 points.Lets see, on the unit circle, sine is 0 at 0 and \(\pi\). But this is of (2a) so when 2a=0 or 2a=\(\pi\) you have a zero.
ok, yeah i got that
I'm at the end of a long work day, and I know you are brain fried at this point, so write it all out and then try it to see if you can get the same thing. If you can; then I did not make any mistakes. But if you can't I may have goofed in there somewhere and you may need someone else to go over it with you.
And the working it out on your part should be after some sleep. Hehe.
ok sounds good. thank you. whats the exact answer? 0 and π?
Should be a={0,pi/2,pi,3pi/4}
Because of the 2a part.
thanks man. goodnight
Night.
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