limits question...
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow 0}\frac{ \log(2+x) - \log(2-x) }{ x }\]
and there is one more ... \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ asinx - xsina }{ ax^2 - xa^2 }\]
what methods are you spose to use to assess them?
Lhopital seems effective to this
i am not specifically aware of lhopital ?..but you can solve and may explain
take the ratio of the derivatives of the top and bottom
alright ..
\[\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ \log(2+x) - \log(2-x) }{ x }=\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ D_x[\log(2+x) - \log(2-x)] }{D_x[x] }\] \[\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ D_x[\log(2+x)] - D_x[\log(2-x)] }{D_x[x] }\] \[\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ \frac{1}{2+x} - \frac{1}{2-x} }{1}=0\]
Lhopital is useful for indeterminant stuff: 0/0 that is
in the x to a set up, a is held constant so treat it as a constant in the derivatives
well the answer key says the answer as 1
for the first one? if so, i may be recalling this a little off, or the key may be wrong :)
.... murmur, it is 1
doh! i derived the ln(2-x) as 1/(2-x) and dropped a negative :/
so yes, 1/2 + 1/2 = 1
\[\lim_{x \to 0}\frac{ \frac{1}{2+x} - \frac{-1}{2-x} }{1}=1\] ahhh, thats better :)
yeah !!..true for the first...so buddy any idea for the second??
id do the same concept, but with proper derivatives
have you done derivatives yet?
well ..my tutor first didnt start with derivatives but i could solve the limit problems like by formulae ..sinx/x = 1 ...log(1 + x)/x = 1 ...and all that stuff!
you might want to split the fraction and factor the demoninator then
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ asinx - xsina }{ ax^2 - xa^2 }\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ asinx}{ ax^2 - xa^2 }+\frac{ xsina }{ ax^2 - xa^2 }\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ sinx}{ x^2 - xa }+\frac{ sina }{ ax - a^2 }\]
yeah ..!..got it till here!
ln(x), ln(x+1), ln(x+2) are called horizontal shifts and have no effect on the limit.
can u plz solve it further too..
\[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ sinx}{ x(x - a) }+\frac{ sina }{ a(x - a) }\] i get a "dne" for this one
yeah i also did this
notice that the right side there simply cant be evaluated. its pretty much k/(x-a)
and the left part is 1/(x-a) the limits simply fail to converge
wait the answer is given as (acosa - sina) / a^2
using Lhop \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ asinx - xsina }{ ax^2 - xa^2 }\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ acosx - sina }{ 2ax - a^2 }\] \[\lim_{x \rightarrow a}\frac{ acos(a) - sina }{ 2a^2 - a^2 }\] \[\frac{ acos(a) - sina }{ a^2}\] maybe
oh, then it IS that :) Lhop is soo much simpler to figure out these things
yeah !!...i think dis method is nothing but diffrentiation ..right ??
yep
so long as your orginal limit is indeterminant; the Lhop is sooo useful
hmm..!..yeah !!..u r right ..just need to brush up that ...thank oyu very much to spend ur time for this ..:))
youre welcome :)
u indian?
no, floridian tho
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