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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Helpppp ive asked a lot of people

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What is the problem?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\log_{3} x= \log_{1/3} (x)+8\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hedyeh99

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oooh, I am not good with log, but i suggest you use wolfram alpha, it can do log, it is amazing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just found it hey how can i put the 1/3 at the bottom it keeps showing as a 1/3x een if i use parenthese

OpenStudy (anonymous):

parenthesis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you can do a change of base to avoid confision

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ \ln_{1/3}(x)=\frac{\ln_3(x)}{\ln_3(1/3)} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

If this is right, your answer is infinity, but I'm not sure http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=log3%28x%29%3Dlog1%2F3%28x%29%2B8 Could you please see if infinity is correct? @electrokid

OpenStudy (anonymous):

(** sorry for confusion with the ln **) so, what you now have is: \[ \log_3(x)=\frac{\log_3(x)}{\log_3(1/3)}+8\\ \quad=\frac{\log_3(x)}{-\log_3(3)}+8\\ \quad=-\log_3(x)+8\qquad\qquad\text{(since }\log_3(3)=1 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@hedyeh99 @charliem07 kapeesh?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x is supposed to equal 81

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i looked at the back but i would like to know how ..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I'll let you take over @electrokid because I don't really know log

OpenStudy (anonymous):

continue;;; \[ \log_3(x)=-\log_3(x)+8\\ \implies2\log_3(x)=8\\ \implies\log_3(x^2)=8\\ \text{now take antilog -> exponent to "3"}\\ x^2=3^8\\ x=\pm 3^4\qquad\qquad\text{note: x>0}\\ x = 3^4\\ \color{red}{\large\boxed{x=81}} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

follow?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is one basic rule when you see an equation with "log(x)" try to get all the "x" under one log with the same base.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@charliem07 knock, knock

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im reading it trying to figure it out lol.. .. i was stuck on the fraction part... now i see how you got it out by taking out the minus...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea its so much easier to understandd now thats what i wanted the same base but i had no clue what to do wit htat fraction.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that step involves the following details: \[\log_3(1/3)=\log_3(3^{-1})=-\log_3(3)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! OKAY that helps i never saw it like that but it makes a lot of sense

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that way or if you do not remember the reciprocal, then this way gets you to the same place \[\log_3(1/3)=\log_3(1)-\log_3(3)=0-\log_3(3)\] since the logarithm of "1" to any base is "0"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes..... how about when you have the natural log... several times in parenthesis

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln(ln(x)) = 3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

isnt the ln automatically ln10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

go step by step. remember that \(\ln\equiv\log_e\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\ln(\ln(x))=3\\ \ln(x)=e^3\\ x=e^{e^3} \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how does that distribute or how does that work i know ln(e)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but how did you raise the e^3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

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