Consider the vector v = (0;3;4) in 3D. Why are there infinite vectors that are perpendicular to v in 3D?
Because the vector is a line segment containing an infinite number of points - any of which may have a line (vector) drawn perpendicular to it.
Should I answer this question by saying what you just said?
I would answer the question the way I did. You should understand what my answer means and decide whether I'm correct or not rather than trust me to tell you whether you should quote me or not. I believe my concept is correct, but I don't know if I stated it in the terminology your teacher wants to hear.
hi friends, can I say something?
Sure. I don't rent the place out. :-)
yes sure
you have the formula to consider whether 2 vectors are perpendicular or not. if they are, <u,v> =0
sorry...just found that the actual question is why there are infinite UNIT vectors that are perpendicular to v in 3D
your u = (0,3,4) let v =(a,b,c) <u,v> = 0a +3b+4c =0 you have 1 equation, 3 variables the solution for that is infinite set
that is terminology of proving how to get and why it is infinite solution. does it make sense?
but they are not necessarily unit vectors, right?
i think so, it's in general, of course including unit vector.
unit vector is just a vector with the length 1. that's it
moreover, your vector u=(0,3,4) is not unit vector
it's arbitrary vector, and no need to convert it to unit vector to consider
yes i know...what i want to know is why there are infinite unit vectors perpendicular to v
so, does mine make sense to you? 1 question, 3 variables, you have at least 2 free variables. base on that you can conclude the infinite solution for the stuff. I am sure.
sounds quite right but if we have 0a +3b+4c =0, the equation can be reduced to 3b+4c =0, and so only 2 variables left
and unit vector is of the length of 1, does it mean that we can set up another equation?
hey friend, I think you misunderstanding something in that. cannot reduce because if you do that, you miss a. I mean with any a, 0a =0 . for example if a =1, 0a=0, a =2 ,0a =0, too, a =3; 0a =0 and so on,... that mean infinite set of a, not a =0 is only one solution. you know what I mean?
got it
hey, how about the asker, where is he?
that's me
ok, sorry friend.
as the unit vectors are of the length of 1, can we set up another equation ?
particular problem, please
as i said above, what i want to find out is UNIT vectors that are perpendicular to v=(0, 3, 4) in 3D can i let u=(a,b,c) and then set up the following equation? 1/(a^2+b^2+c^2)(sqrt)=1
(a,b,c)/(a^2+b^2+c^2)(sqrt)=1
in the original question, you just ask the proof of infinite set of vectors which perpendicular to (0,3,4). I give you that proof, think of this, all unit vectors =1, generalize the vector perpendicular (a,b,c) in the set you have \[\frac{ <a,b,c> }{ \sqrt{a^2+b^2+c^2} }\] is unit vector where <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)>=0 I think so
sorry for my mistake...
even if we have 2 equations now, there are still infinite unit vectors perpendicular to v, right?
I don't understand.
@richard1024 exactly.. any combination of "b" and "c" that satisfies the above rule alongwith any real "a" will be the perpendicular to <u>
@qweqwe123123123123111 said that in plain English, @hoa said the same exact thing in mathematical terms :) and I just restating them and connected them with a thread.
we have these 2 equations (a,b,c)/(a^2+b^2+c^2)(sqrt)=1 and 0a+3b+4c=0
still there can be infinite solutions?
they both give the same equation. you wrote the first one incorrectly.
the numerator should be <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)>
which is the same exact thing as the other equation. so, you've got only one equation. kapeesh?
why they both give the same equation?
eq# 1 <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)>=0 eq# 2 <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)> --------------- = 0 sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
now, aint they the same thing?
eq. 2 is just the unit vectors..
of the equation 1
i have just attached a file are you able to open it?
what i don't know is question 1b(iii)
yes. that is infinite.
i don't understand why we have this equation <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)> --------------- = 0 sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
then just forget it.. its misleading.. wipe it off... :)
its not needed
just remember <(0,3,4),(a,b,c)>
as it is a unit vector, should we have an equation like this instead? (a,b,c) --------------- = 1 sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
why it's (0,3,4),(a,b,c)?
well, thats the last step.. you are stuck in an infinite loop there... you first have to snap out of it
now i understand why (a,b,c) --------------- . (0,3,4)= 0 sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
and unit vector has a length of 1, so is the following equation correct? (a,b,c) --------------- = 1 sqrt(a^2+b^2+c^2)
:)
\[(a,b,c)\div \sqrt{a ^{2}+b ^{2}+c ^{2}}=1\]
nice work
it's correct?
yep
that's why i said we have 2 equations
ok. but they are "parallel" and hence, same but you got the idea.
but still there are infinite solutions because we have 2 equations but 3 unknowns, right?
yes.
now i understand everything thank you very much for your patience, time, and all you told me
you are welcome. in math, when you get stuck somewhere, snap out, clear your mind and look at it with fresh eyes.
okay :)
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