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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Intervals of concavity, can anyone explain how to do this?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Do you have a function we can work with?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YES, omg. didnt think anyone would reply. one second.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Basically you need to find when \[ f''(x)=0 \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

right. i got halfway there i think. \[f(x)=2\sqrt{x}-x \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That is the inflection points. Concavity can only change at inflection points.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is the equation, first derivative is 1/radical(x)-1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Now second derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got x=1 but im not sure thats correct.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Second derivative is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{-2x ^{3/2} }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay so does it have any roots?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Um. I dont think so. no.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the concavity never changes. Is it always concave up or always concave down?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what exactly are roots again?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Roots of \(f(x)\) is just any \(x\) when \(f(x)=0\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so you'd set the second derivative equal to 0?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

technically couldn't you solve for x and get a number?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Try it out: =)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cant doo it. Thats annoying. you end up with -1/x^3. I want to make it something. o.o

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay well think about it this way \[ \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} = 0 \]Multiply both sides by \(g(x)\): \[ f(x)=0 \cdot g(x)=0 \]So the roots of \(f(x)/g(x)\) are just the roots of \(f(x)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

In this case \(f(x)=1\). We know \(1\) has no roots because... \(1\ne 0\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thus \[ \ \frac{f(x)}{g(x)} =\frac{ 1 }{-2x ^{3/2} }=0 \]Has no solutions... there are no roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So the function is always concave up or always concave down

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@skay I don't have all night. Say something.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay. sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Just thinking it through.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

umm. its concave down.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How did you figure that out?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I graphed it with my calculator :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

All you got to do is put in a test point, like \(x=1\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

0.35?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You need to try harder and ask questions. I'm running out of time.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ummm in the second derivative?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay so what do i do with 0.35?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

That isn't what you get when you put \(1\) in the second derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i get negative 1/2.8284...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait, -1/2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay is that above zero or below zero?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

below

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so x<0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

No \(f''(x)<0\) Which means that \(f(x)\) is concave down.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right. according to the rules. Ok.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

What would my intervals be if there is no roots?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ (-\infty , \infty) \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thought so, thanks!

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