Need help with chemistry work please help me understand? Calorimetry - qwater= M x C x DeltaT I finished that equation: 26.0 x 4.18 x 6.3 = 684.684. I'm stuck on qmetal = 27.776 x C x DeltaT? IDK what to do. full question: Calculate the energy change (q) of the surroundings (Water) using the enthalpy equation qwater= M x C x deltaT we can assume that the specific heat capacity of water is 4.18 J / (g x degrees C) and the density of water is 1.00 g/mL the water has absorbed the heat of the metal. So, qwater=qmetal
@scitoteipsum
you mean to calculate the change in temperature of the surroundings, right?
yes
I'm confused because i don't know what the last part is with the qmetal part @electrokid
how much heat did the metal loose?
hold on, i will give you the chart, i got 6.3 for the first equation for delta t
Metal: Aluminum Mass of metal: 27.776 g Volume of water in the calorimeter: 26.0 mL Initial temperature of water in calorimeter: 25.3 °C Temperature of hot water and metal in hot water bath: 100.5 °C Final temperature reached in the calorimeter: 31.6 °C
then, \[\Delta Q_{\rm water}=m_{\rm water}\times c\times \Delta T\]
from your question, you are asked for the energy change of water. which is the heat LOST by water from 100 to 31.6 degrees
i had that, but didn't know if it was right, 68.9 So equation so far is 27.776 x C x 68.9
I'm just confused on C, i think C is .902 or somethin right cause i googled Specific heat capacity for aluminum and got a few diff answers from .897 to .91 is that right though?
we are dealing with the equation for water.. how is alluminium going to affect? Water and Al both are loosing heat
you said the temperature "inside" the calorimeter is 36 so, the temperature of both water and Al decreased
wait.. I did the qwater equation already and ended up with 684.684.. i need the qmetal unless im doing something totally wrong?
if they are asking for Q water, it should be negative and that is it!
so am i wrong?
I'm sorry.. i just don't catch on fast in chemistry
no. you are correct, with the approach. I did not verify the values. but otherwise, that is the heat lost... you should get Q negative because \(\Delta T\) = T final - T initial = negative
kapeesh?
so you take the final temp - intial temp and you wind up with..
31.6-100.5=
-6.3
-68.9
wait so what am i doing with my work if thats the answer?
that is just the \(\Delta T\) we are finding Q.. for water Q for water = mass of water * "c" of water * Delta T
so it'd be... 26.0 x C x -68.9?
c=4.186 J gm /K
can you tell me how you get C though?
it is a standard value. should be in the book with a small table giving you the "c" values for some substances.
i looked up specific heat capacity of aluminum and got .897 or is that something different?
the important things are 1) signs -> to tell if heat is lost or gained 2) units -> all units must be consistent -> add apples to a basket of apples and not bananas 3) use only the information provided. Check the question twice.
yep., c for Al -> 0.897 or approx 0.9 J gm /K
so what is c=4.186 J gm /K for then? what does that stand for?
that is the "c" for water
oh! yeah now im understanding, i have that in the equation at the top already, hm
yep
so the equation is 26.0 x 4.18 x 6.3 for qwater and 27.776 x .897 x -68.9 for qmetal?
and that is qwater=qmetal?
yes but I think you are asked just for the heat change in water.
just for sanity, could you enter the question exactly as it is
yes ill copy paste
it seems to me that you wrote the "yuour interpretation" of the question
Calculate the energy change (q) of the surroundings (water) using the enthalpy equation qwater = m × c × ΔT. We can assume that the specific heat capacity of water is 4.18 J / (g × °C) and the density of water is 1.00 g/mL. The water has absorbed the heat of the metal. So, qwater = qmetal
that's how its written, and i apologize for not grasping the concept of this with your help, I'm very appreciative though.
no problemo.. a good problem before sleep :)
how can this be the question whe it says nothing about the temperatures, masses, etc
well it was a lab
there you go tell me more :)
and this is the questions concluding, all other stuff it gives is the data chart i put up about the aluminum
got ya
so the temperatures you have are for Al .. not the water...
Metal: Aluminum Mass of metal: 27.776 g Volume of water in the calorimeter: 26.0 mL Initial temperature of water in calorimeter: 25.3 °C Temperature of hot water and metal in hot water bath: 100.5 °C Final temperature reached in the calorimeter: 31.6 °C this is for everything
Temperature of hot water and metal in hot water bath: 100.5 °C this is the misleading line... 100.5 is the temperature of the hot Al plate that you put in the cold water.
then you notice that the water temperature rose from 25.3 to 31.6 degrees
:) and Al cooled from 100.5 to 31.6 degrees
so what does this
mean?
this means that as the Al plate cooled, it lost heat .. (Q is negative) that heat is gained by the water (Q is positive) The aim of the lab is to show hat both the ques will have the same magnitude
the calorimeter makes sure that the heat from Al does not go anywhere and stays inside.
yes, so.. the equations would be negative? is my teacher like mind f'ing my head? excuse my language but..
only one is negative. I am not aware of your teacher. Maybe you did not understand him.
and but what?
wait, so the water is negative while the Al is positive? or otherway around
read 3lines above
yes only
is nega
loss = negative gain = positive
even in real life, it is valid
OH THE AL LOST IS AND THE WATER GAINED
PING
and the world become gright again
SO THE EQUATIONS HOW WE WORKED THEM OUT ARE CORRECT
ITS JUST NOT ASKING FOR them like that right
yes. I did not check the numbers.. AGAIN: you should get the Q from Al and water to be equal.
thats the whole point!@
wait.. how do you do that..
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