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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Divide and Check. See below please

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

The saga continues.... hehe

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ x^7 + x^3 }{ x }\] would it just be \[x^6 + x^2\]

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes. There is no real reason too do more. IF and ONLY IF it said, "fully factored form" then you would need to do more. \(x^2(x^4+1)\) is the fully factored version of the same thing.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Makes sense!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah, that is the sort of thing they try and get you with. They do not realy make "trick" questions. The purpose is to get you to read the question fully and consider the answer carefully. So if there is just simplify, all you do is make it simple. If it says factor or simplified factor form, or anything like that, then they mean more.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the GCF then factor: \[2x^7 + 4x^6 - 6x^5 + 4x^4\] \[x^4\] = GCF \[x^4(2x^3 + 4x^2 - 6x + 4)\] Is that the farthest I can factor it? @e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

You can also factor out a 2 easily. then it is seeing if the \(P_3\) factors. FYI: \(P_3\) means Polynomeal of the 3rd degree.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(2x^4(x^3+2x^2-3x+2)\) is the easy part. Have you done polynomeal long division yet?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did not even notice the numbers! I was only looking at the exponents! man I need to look more! and no i have not.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

OK. If they have not gone into the division, it may not be something they mean you to factor. There is actually a way to divide othose things and if there is no remainder it is a factor.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well this is the last week of class so I do not think we are going into that.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Other factors would be nasty fractions in this case, so I do not think they expect you to do it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

For this one it says to completely factor the polynomial. \[7x^3 + 63x^2 + 7x + 63)\] \[7(x^3 + 9x^2 + x + 9)\] Should I also factor inside the parenthesis or is this okay? @e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah, try a little grouping there.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

In fact, you probably could have factored by grouping at the start, but it makes little difference.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so? \[(x^3 + 9x)(x + 9)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

whoops its \[(x^3 + 9x^2)(x + 9)\] @e.mccormick

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Hehe. You caught something! Always best if you see it before I do.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Hmm.... that would be \(x^4\)... etc.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait so I would multiply them again??

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I am saying that could not be a factor if you try and check it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we would just leave as is?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I dont like grouping lol

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Welcome to the club.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Some of these are fun but than again, some equations look the same but you have to solve differently which confuses me.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\[7x^3+63x^2+7x+63\Rightarrow 7(x^3+9x^2)+7(x+9)\]Now, do you see another common factor there?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah, they have all these different ways to skin a polynomial in math.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I don't see any other common factors. I think maybe we can factor the first parenthesis but im not sure

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\[7(x^3+9x^2)+7(x+9)\Rightarrow 7[x^2(x+9)+(x+9)]\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what I was seeing but wasnt sure where the 7 would go!!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I could have left the 7 in or taken it out. Eventually it would come out in fully factored form. \[7[x^2(x+9)+(x+9)]\Rightarrow 7(x^2+1)(x+9)\]

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Now you can foil the last part and see what happens if you want to check. That was what I started to do to check yours and I got \(x^4\) as the first term, so I knew something had gone wrong.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I checked it and it works!!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I agree that grouping is a pain in the anatomy and can be hard to see. However, when there are lots of numbers that divide up easily, that is a big clue that you may need to do it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

true! when it comes to factoring trinomials completely, i know that there are two ways to do it. for this one can you help? (p.s, I really appreciate you sticking with me for this long) \[x^2 + 28x + 5\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or is the trinomial a prime?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, 5 is a prime number. So the factors of 5 are only 1 and 5. Does 5+1 or 5-1 or 1+5 or 1-5 = 28?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nope

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, because that is what makes the center term is combinations like that.... it can't be done. There is another test if you know the quadratic formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I know that sometimes we multiply those two numbers or something like that

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah, the first and third. In \(Ax^2+Bx+C\) the B is mathematically related to A and C if there are factors.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

regardless though this polynomial is a prime?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yah. That one looks prime. FYI: this was the other thing I was talking about. |dw:1365915515608:dw|

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