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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find a model for simple harmonic motion if the position at t = 0 is 0, the amplitude is 5 centimeters, and the period is 2 seconds. ***Answer choices will be attached inside!!! Thanks :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try plugging in numbers to see which fits after your initial guess ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer choices A,B,C,D from top to bottom :) ***my answer; C. d=5sin(pi t) is that right? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=5cosπt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d= Asin(wt) A=5 T=2 => f=1/2 w=2pif => w=pi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay, so the answer isn't C?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry x=Asinπt

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah you are correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

answer is D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait haha so is it C? or D? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Its D. You must use sin(wt) not cos(wt)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its C.D is with φ=90

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm confused lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohhhh okay haha so C it is? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

totally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but did you understood why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol okay... hahaha thanks @doppler and @Diogo :) yeah i do :) i thought that was my answer at first, but i was a little unsure... so yeah haha b/c when they both equal 0, it has to be cosine right? it's like a rule right? and it had to be 5 cuz it's 5 cm right? :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well at least i think i do haha... did i understand that correctly? LOL :/ or did i miss some stuff? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cosφ=sin(φ + 90) so it would be correct if it was x=Asin(ωt + 90)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

as i told you on the other question the main equation is: d = A sin (wt+phi) where A = amplitude. If they say that amplitude is 5, then its 5 lol When they tell you that for t=0 the position = 0 then phi = 90

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol okay haha thanks you guys!!!! :)

OpenStudy (mertsj):

Well, it can't be c because the cos of 0 is 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Mertsj so the answer is or isn't C? :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol confused :P

OpenStudy (mertsj):

IT CAN'T BE C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

diogo the equation of SHM i think is x=Acos(ωt + φ)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay @Mertsj haha so what would it be then?? i'm a little lost :(

OpenStudy (anonymous):

brb, gonna get my vibrations book from college

OpenStudy (mertsj):

When t =0, the function is 0 so it has to be D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from textbook...with that in mind and with initial conditions set to be φ=0 at x=0 then it would be c

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mertsj if it says position at t=0 is 0 it means that φ=0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you just put φ=0 on the equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x(t) = A e ^{-\xi \omega t}\cos(\omega t -\phi)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that s for damped motion

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which means i was correct at first. It is D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Cos (0) = 1 not 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but didn't y'all say when t=0 and position=0, it means it has to be cosine? :/ i'm confused hahaa so @Diogo you're saying it's D then? not C? :/ could y'all please explain that to me?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sin (0) =0 so its D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im pretty sure its C

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could u pls explain like the process of how it gets to D then? cuz i'm a bit confused lol... :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\phi = \tan^{-1} (\frac{ x(t)+\xi \omega x(0) }{ \omega \sqrt{1-\xi ^{2}} x(0) } )\] as x(0) = 0 then phi= pi/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay... so it's between C and D right? so how can we tell whether it's cosine or sine?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

period = pi/(2pi) = 2 So it can be C or D Now, when t=0, the function =0 Sin(0) = 0, anything times 0 equals 0 the value of the function is 0 Cos (0)=1; 5*1=1 so the value of the function at t=1 is 5 So the answer should be D

OpenStudy (anonymous):

d = 5 cos (pi t - pi/2) d= 5 sin (pi t)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its D my bad sorry yeah its 0=Acosφ so φ=90 then it goes x=Acos(ωt + 90) =Αsinωτ

OpenStudy (mertsj):

yes. hang on.

OpenStudy (mertsj):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol for one moment i thought that initial displacement was φ -.-

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay, I see... Thank you so much for all your help!!! ***OS crashed on me yesterday in the middle of this problem, so I wasn't here! But it's working for me now! :) Thanks again everybody!!! :)

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