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\[\int\limits_{}^{}\frac{ 4dx }{ xIn(5x) }\]
indfinite integals
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oh im so sorry but i cant help you with that. im only 14 XP
this is another u substitution for u=ln(5x)
du is 1/5dx?
du = (5/x )dx
dx=1/5du?
you're missing the x, dx=(x/5)du
you were right with the 1/5 though
I see. whats next step?
you substitute back into the integral: What will you get when you do that?
remember that u=ln(5x) and dx=(x/5)du
this is the most confusing part!
i have no idea..
Well basically you just look at your integral, and wherever you find an ln(5x) you put an u, wherever you find an dx you put (x/5)du
i see so \[\int\limits_{}^{}=u,du?\]
\[4 \int\limits \frac{ 1 }{ x \ln(5x) }dx=4 \int\limits \frac{ 1 }{ xu }\frac{ x }{ 5 }du\]
I do not understand, how you fet 1/xu and x/5...
\[4 \int\limits\limits \frac{ 1 }{ x \ln(5x) }dx=4 \int\limits\limits \frac{ 1 }{ xu }\frac{ x }{ 5 }du=\frac{ 4 }{ 5 }\int\limits \frac{ 1 }{ u }du\]
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when you do a substitute, you choose an approrpriate substitution that will simplify, when you do that however, you also need to to two substitutions, not one. One is the regular u-substitution and the other remaining one is for the differential dx
so what I did above is I set u=ln(5x), that's why it disappear in th emiddle part of the equation in terms of u. Now the differential dx is (x/5)du, so I also substituted that in the middle part of these equations above.
this can then be simplified to the very right hand side of it.
I see. why its 4/5 in the front now?
the 5 went in the denominator, so if you want to pull that out - and you can do that because it's only a constant - then you have to factor out a 1/5 of the quotient, 4 times 1/5 is equal to (4/5)
i got it!
whats next step? place u in to the equation?
you solve the very right hand side integral. So you simplified your integral by a lot, now you want to solve: \[\frac{ 4 }{ 5 } \int\limits \frac{ 1 }{ u }du\]
ok,
we know du.. so we use du in order to solve that?
What do you get when you differentiate ln(x)?
1/x?
exactly, so, when you integrate you do the exact opposite right? You want to find a function which, when you differentiate it, turns out to be the same function of your integral. So, if ln(x) differentiated turns out to be 1/x, then what is the integral of (1/u)
In u? but why differentiation of In x is matter?
just to demonstrate that it is independent of the variable, because you seemed to struggle with the integral above, if you didn't however then pardon me, I misunderstood, however you might want to just write the answer down then and back substitute for u :-)
thank you. it explains. mmmmm... integral of 1/u... is In u?
exactly
woop! what do i do next?
you plug back u=ln(5x) into your result and you're done.
where do i plug u=ln (5x)?
ln(u) u=ln(5x) ln(ln(5x))
thank you very much!
you're very welcome
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