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OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think i figured this equation out but i need someone to check it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[xe ^{y} + 1 = xy\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ xe ^{y} + 1 }{ x} = y\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[xe ^{y} + 1 \times (x ^{-1})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(xe ^{y} + 1) (-1) + (x^{-1})(xe^{y} + 0)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[-(xe^{y} + 1 ) + (x^{-1})(xe^{y})\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understand wht u need to do on that equation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

finding the derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[(-xe^{y} -1) + (x^{-1})(xe^{y} + 0)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well i really dont understood, sorry, do u know implicit diferentiation?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we've done it in class but i don't remember how to do it.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think that the way to do this is by implicit diferentiation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i dont understodd the method that u used to solve this

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which metod it was

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the chain rule to differentiate.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i really dont understad what u did if u could explaint me each step or we can try with implicit diferentiation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

try the implicit differentiation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we have this xe^y +1=xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u remember the product rule right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

first times the dx/dy of the second plus second times the dx/dy of the first?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes lets work with just this part xe^y i meant the firts term

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u got it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

which is ...\[x(e^{y}) + e^{y} (1) + 0\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes but u must get the derivative of (y) too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and put it where?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x(e^y)(dy/dx)+ey(1)+0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x(e^y)(dy/dx)+e^y(1)+0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

did u get it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

remember the original equation equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xe^y +1=xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now lets work with the (xy)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i meant the right part of the equation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are u following me?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok could u apply the product rule on xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x(dy) + y(dx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i m not sure about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

xy´ + yx´ that is what we r trying to find

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok but y´ = dy/dx and x´=1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u got that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how come x isn't dx/dy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry x'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we r trying to find the derivative with respect to the variable x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so for y we have y´ = dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and for x we have x´ = dx/dx = 1

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ohh okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so lets write the derivative of xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x + y(dy/dx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

again with the product rule we have

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x´y + xy´

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x´ = 1 y´ =dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y + x(dy/dx)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes now lets put all the parts together in the original equation xe^y +1=xy

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could u do that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[x(e^{y})\frac{ dy }{ dx} + e^{y} = y + x(\frac{ dy }{ dx })\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is right now we must solve for dy/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u know how to do that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i can trytry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok will be wathching

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jajaaj bad english

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ e^{y}-y }{ x-xe^{y}}=\frac{ dy }{ dx}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so it is done

OpenStudy (anonymous):

could you you help me on one more?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i will try

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\int\limits \frac{ e^\sqrt{x} }{ \sqrt{x}} dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

have u tried u-substitution?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought so,but im not sure if i use square root of x

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes\[u=\sqrt{x}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now lets find du/dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-1/2x^1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so we multiply by 1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or e?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

e?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im stuck right theere

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lets write it with the diferentials

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what you mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

du= \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2\sqrt{x} }\]dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i don't understand

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[du = \frac{ 1 }{ 2\sqrt{x} }dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do u get it now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its not ..\[-\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }x^{\frac{ 1 }{ 2 }}\]dx

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no

OpenStudy (anonymous):

remember the power rule for derivatives

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so u know the reason?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

not sure,but your du = my du i just got rid of the radical sign and the fraction

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wait .. aren't i suppose to subtract one fro the exponent when i bring it to the front?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so .. what did i do wrong?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the power rule is \[d x^{n}/dx = nx ^{n-1}\]

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