Boolean QUestion how come x'z + xy + yz = xy + x'z
this boolean calculator says they are equivalent (same truth table)
i dont see how the left side equals right side,
using a proof
@perl XY+(X+X')YZ+X'Z=XY+XYZ+X'YZ+X'Z=XY(1+Z)+X'(1+Y)Z =XY+X'Z
because (X+X') = 1 , and 1 * x = x
@gorv why does XY(1+Z)+X'(1+Y)Z =XY+X'Z
1+x = 1
1+x= 1
thanks :)
@gorv how did you know to do this?
very nice proof
oh , let me check
he told me that (x'z'+xy')' = z(x'+y) which is false
he said that is the book answer
i see, i went too fast
so what were you saying before, that we have to find MMF form. what was your approach?
you dont need my permission :)
ok i misunderstood what he said, i read it too fast
in kert question, it asked to simplify. so , yours is good
anyway, you got more than him
me too. sit here to learn from others, :)
so we wanted minimal sum of products form. and you can do it as gorv did it, or use karnaugh map
i dont know how to do karnaugh map
yeap, to 4 variable problem, I prefer K map
I studied it by myself. quite easy
did you know the solution gorv did?
sure, I studied that way from my prof
how come gorv answered and you didnt?
because I ammmmm brainless. hehehe
haha
all is good , so how come xy + yz + x'z is not minimal form? because y repeats
go to other topic friend, boolean is not hard to understand. the question ask about arithmetic is amazing and the guy gave out the answer is a real big guy.
can you give me link?
remember the question asked about a =9 mod 10 a =8 mod 9.... amazing answer.
you were there, and both us thought about chinese theorem
it turns out we didnt need it because there was a trick
of course our ways can come up with that solution, but his way is..... Perfect
Solve x mod 10 = 9 x mod 9 = 8 x mod 8 = 7 x mod 7 = 6 x mod 6 = 5 x mod 5 = 4 x mod 4 = 3 x mod 3 = 2 x mod 2 = 1
not a trick, just flexibility what we don't have
now watch my solution
yeah, to me, meet that problem, I have to figure out phi function to solve
if this is true : x mod 10 = 9 x mod 9 = 8 x mod 8 = 7 x mod 7 = 6 x mod 6 = 5 x mod 5 = 4 x mod 4 = 3 x mod 3 = 2 x mod 2 = 1 Then this is true: x mod 10 = 9 mod 10 x mod 9 = 8 mod 9 x mod 8 = 7 mod 8 x mod 7 = 6 mod 7 x mod 6 = 5 mod 6 x mod 5 = 4 mod 5 x mod 4 = 3 mod 4 x mod 3 = 2 mod 3 x mod 2 = 1 mod 2 Then this is true: x +1 mod 10 = 9 +1 mod 10 = 0 x +1 mod 9 = 8 +1 mod 9 = 0 x +1 mod 8 = 7 +1 mod 8 = 0 x +1 mod 7 = 6 +1 mod 7 = 0 x +1 mod 6 = 5 +1 mod 6 = 0 x +1 mod 5 = 4 +1 mod 5 = 0 x +1 mod 4 = 3 +1 mod 4 = 0 x +1 mod 3 = 2 +1 mod 3 = 0 x +1 mod 2 = 1 +1 mod 2= 0
ok so far?
good
so x+1 is a multiple of 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and we want the smallest multiple x+1 = LCM { 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10}
just notation, x+1 = 0 mod 10 for example. not as yours. but I understand
x +1 mod 10 = 9 +1 mod 10 = 0 mod 10 x +1 mod 9 = 8 +1 mod 9 = 0 mod 9 x +1 mod 8 = 7 +1 mod 8 = 0 mod 8 x +1 mod 7 = 6 +1 mod 7 = 0 mod 7 x +1 mod 6 = 5 +1 mod 6 = 0 mod 6 x +1 mod 5 = 4 +1 mod 5 = 0 mod 5 x +1 mod 4 = 3 +1 mod 4 = 0 mod 4 x +1 mod 3 = 2 +1 mod 3 = 0 mod 3 x +1 mod 2 = 1 +1 mod 2= 0 mod 2
Actually, for this part, I studied last summer when I was free from math at school and unfortunately, I studied by myself. I didn't have a prof confirm what I have.
so we used a theorem x mod n = y mod n if and only of ( x + c) mod n = ( y + c ) mod n
yep
and also we can say (x +1 ) mod 10 = 0 means that (x+1) / 10 = k , (because no remainder) (x+1) is a multiple of 10
(x+1) = 10*k
got it
so we want a multiple of 10, a multiple of 9, a multiple of 8 ,... and might as well use the least common multiple. the problem didnt actually specify the 'least' , but
also the original problem excluded x+1 mod 9, x+1 mod 7, etc
its a nice problem , yes i didnt see the solution. but its ok
come here http://openstudy.com/study#/updates/517bedc0e4b0249598f7b180 I saw that problem once, let see how other answer
@perl yeah 1+anything =1 that XX'=0 and gate X+X'=1 or gate
gorv, i wasnt sure how you discovered the proof (but the proof works :)
the main thing was to eliminate YZ so i apply bolean operation
interesting
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