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OpenStudy (anonymous):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Group n x s A 150 $1987 $392 B 150 $2056 $413 a) Do the data show a significant difference between the mean amounts charged by customers offered the two plans? Carry out a complete test. b) The distributions of amounts charged are skewed to the right, but outliers are prevented by the limits that the bank imposes on credit balances. Do you think that skewness threatens the validity of the test? Explain your answer.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

let me think for a sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok to start you off, read this page on two sample t tests http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/qmss/the_ttest/twosample_ttest.html this will refresh your memory on the whole process (which hopefully you have learned it before)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok and it looks familiar?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ya

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok luckily there's a calculator on that page as well

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

see where it says Two-Sample T-Test Calculator

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

click that and enter the data tell me what p value you get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i put in the data and got results.. t = 1.4841 df = 298 standard error of difference = 46.493

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one sec while i check your results

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

read me the p value please it's near where it says "P value and statistical significance: "

OpenStudy (anonymous):

its .1388?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

good

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok cool. what do i put for a

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so at the 5% significance level (the default level), it's NOT significant (the p value needs to be less than 0.05) even at the 10% significance level, it's still NOT significant (still not smaller than 0.10) so the data is NOT statistically significant....which means that the two sample means aren't statistically significantly different

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok yea! so for a, id put all that?^

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Do the data show a significant difference between the mean amounts charged by customers offered the two plans? no there's no significant difference between the two sample means

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's basically what you would say more or less of course you would throw in the test (ie the steps needed to get there)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oky cool thx! wat about B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's hard to say, but even though there's a right skew, it's not that bad because of the imposed limits

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so I would think that the skew doesn't alter the fact that these distributions are approximately normal (more or less)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats what i was thinking.. ok thanks! i have another one:

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

this is also a two sample t test

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so follow the same basic procedure 1) use the calculator given above 2) read off the p value to make the proper decisions

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okay umm

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if it helps, think of the two groups as A and B

OpenStudy (anonymous):

The two-tailed P value equals 0.0172 ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

very good, getting the same

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so... is 0.0172 smaller than 0.05 ? is 0.0172 smaller than 0.01 ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes and no for the second

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

perfect

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Do beta-blockers reduce the pulse rate at the 5% level? At the 1% level? yes for the 5% level (since it's statistically significant at the 5% level) but no for the 1% (its not statistically significant at the 1% level)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

see how I'm getting all this?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay ya

OpenStudy (anonymous):

b?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok sadly this calc only does 95% confidence intervals

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so one sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

does it say anywhere that the population variances are assumed to be equal?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nope i dont see it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok i'll just guess "no, they aren't assumed to be equal"

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok first thing we need to do is calculate the standard error which we'll call SE

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

SE = sqrt( ((s1)^2)/(n1) + ((s2)^2)/(n2) ) SE = sqrt( ((7.8)^2)/(30) + ((8.3)^2)/(30) ) SE = 2.07950314578587 SE = 2.0795

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok got that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now onto the actual confidence interval Lower Limit: L = (xbar1 - xbar2) - t*SE L = (65.2-70.3) - 2.756*(2.0795) L = -10.831102 Upper Limit: U = (xbar1 - xbar2) + t*SE U = (65.2-70.3) + 2.756*(2.0795) U = 0.631102

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

So the confidence interval (L, U) turns into (-10.831102, 0.631102)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

which means the 99% CI is (-10.831102, 0.631102) CI = confidence interval

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i have something else:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (anonymous):

?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sry one sec

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

still looking up formula

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm does it say anywhere that you have to assume that p-hat = 0.5 ?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, p = 0.25 nvm

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so we would do this... n = p(1-p)(z/E)^2 n = 0.25(1-0.25)(z/E)^2 n = 0.25(0.75)(z/E)^2 n = 0.1875(z/E)^2 n = 0.1875(1.96/0.05)^2 n = 0.1875(39.2)^2 n = 0.1875(1536.64) n = 288.12 n = 289 ... Always round UP!!! (to the nearest whole number)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is that it?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so the min sample size is 289

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok one sec!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

same idea, but different numbers

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh wait, they want the margin of error this time

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well it's a similar idea at least

OpenStudy (anonymous):

okk

OpenStudy (anonymous):

soo

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

actually this is a two part problem the first part asks for the min sample size

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the second part asks for the margin of error

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so for the first part, we use the formula n = p(1-p)(z/E)^2 where p = 0.50 z = 1.96 E = 0.08

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

OpenStudy (anonymous):

n = .50(1-.50)(1.96/.08)^2

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

actually my bad, p = 0.60 z = 1.96 E = 0.08 sorry about that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah ok lol hold on

OpenStudy (anonymous):

144.06??

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so n = 145

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's the min sample size needed

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

now we use this to answer the second part of the question

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok cool

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

using this formula E = z*sqrt( (p*(1-p))/n ) in this case z = 1.96 (still the same since we're still dealing with a 95% CI) p = 0.50 (this changes because they tell us it does) n = 145 (we just found this)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what do you get

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it 0.08138457025

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