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OpenStudy (anonymous):

please help!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

all you have to do is fill in the numbers in the equation(:

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it didnt work!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh then im not sure what to do sorry

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Why would you expect that to work? Did you use differentials? Why would you even try that? It makes no sense at all. The problem statement tells you how to do it. Use Differentials! Find the complete differential of the viscosity equation. It's a couple of Partial Derivatives.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought i need to do differentials.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

in this equation, which one is the constant?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

For the partial derivative with respect to v, everything but 'v' is a constant. For the partial derivative with respect to r, everything but 'r' is a constant. For the partial derivative with respect to p, everything but 'p' is a constant. \(\pi\), 8 and 4 are always constants.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I see. thank you for the explanation. how do i deffertiate this equation to find out maxmium error?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

You find the complete differential - essentially the sum of all possible partial differentials.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mmmm Show e steps? or guide me

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Let's see how far we get... If \(Y = r^{2}\), find \(dY/dr\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2r. ?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Yes. Why the "?" If \(Y = 3s^{2}\) find \(dY/ds\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it should be 6s ?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Perfect. A couple more... If \(Y = \pi s^4r\), find \(dY/dr\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm... pis^4?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Perfect. Now, use the same definition and find \(dY/ds\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from what equation?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

\(Y = \pi s^{4}r\). Find \(dY/ds\).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pis^4??

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

No, that's \(dY/dr\). Find \(dY/ds\). r is constant.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

just pi?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

No. Let's back up. If \(S = r^{4}\), find \(dS/dr\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I have to go now, but thank you for guide me. i will be back but i am not sure if you are still here or not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny are you here?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Let's go. Answer the last one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, S=r^3.

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Did you remember the problem? \(S = r^{4}\) Find \(dS/dr\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

S=4r^3?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Now \(S = \pi r^{4}\cdot 3\) Find \(dS/dr\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

mmmm chain rule? 12pir^3

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

No, there was no Chain Rule. Why do you think there was a Chain Rule. \(\dfrac{dr^{4}}{dr} = 4r^{3}\) -- No chain rule \(\dfrac{d \pi r^{4}}{dr} = \pi4r^{3}\) -- No chain rule \(\dfrac{d \pi r^{4}3}{dr} = \pi4r^{3}3\) -- No chain rule \(\dfrac{d \pi r^{4}3q}{dr} = \pi4r^{3}3q\) -- No chain rule \(\dfrac{d \pi r^{4}3qp}{dr} = \pi4r^{3}3qp\) -- No chain rule No constant add anything to the complexity of the derivative operation. Just carry them along.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thanks for your effort to show me steps, I see so in the end I get Pi4r^33pq?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Then, if you wish to simplify, you can make it \(12\pi r^{3}pq\). The simplification has nothing to do with the derivative.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

aw, I see. so either 12 pir^3pq or pi4r^33pq?

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

That's enough of that. Find these derivatives: \(\dfrac{dp}{dp} = \) \(\dfrac{dpr^{4}}{dp} = \) \(\dfrac{d\pi pr^{4}}{dp} = \) \(\dfrac{d\dfrac{\pi}{8}pr^{4}}{dp} = \) \(\dfrac{d\dfrac{\pi}{8}\dfrac{pr^{4}}{v}}{dp} = \)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dp }{ dp }=1\]

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Perfect. Next?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ dpr^4 }{ dp }=dpr^3\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Why did you do ANYTHING with the 'r'? It's dp. Ignore the 'r and work with the p. It can be rewritten: \(\dfrac{dpr^{4}}{dp} = \left(\dfrac{dp}{dp}\right)r^{4} = r^{4}\dfrac{dp}{dp}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok, \[\frac{ d \pi pr^4 }{ dp }=\(\frac{ dp }{dp })\pi pr^4\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@tkhunny

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Forget that. You haven't done the second one, yet. Please try again on #2.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

R\[r^4\frac{ dp }{ dp }p\]

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Where did you get the extra "p"? Look at mine, again and provide the derivative.

OpenStudy (tkhunny):

Pay close attention. When the derivative is with respect to 'p'. EVERYTHING else is a constant. Everything.

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