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OpenStudy (aaronq):

18 electron count

OpenStudy (aaronq):

@abb0t hey dude, can you confirm some answers for me? A) Pt2+ d8, 16 e B) W1+ d5, 16 e C) Ir3+ d6, 18 e

OpenStudy (aaronq):

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OpenStudy (abb0t):

What's your question? :P

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Oh man, I rmr doing this!! :) hapticity

OpenStudy (aaronq):

lol are those counts right? also is the binding on the drawing above correct? no charge, and electron contribution of 2?

OpenStudy (aaronq):

yaa hapticity, i'm just reviewing making notes so i don't forget this pellet lol

OpenStudy (abb0t):

I used to make a chart like this|dw:1367436305806:dw|

OpenStudy (abb0t):

let's see, for A, B, and C right?

OpenStudy (aaronq):

yeah, and maybe F, which i got Fe d8, 18 e. Assuming the bridging carbonyls provide one electron to each iron, which i'm not sure about.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

yeah, there's no bridging on A, B, or C. Only one I see is on F

OpenStudy (abb0t):

2 electrons are being shared from the H-C=C-H right? or was it 4?

OpenStudy (aaronq):

i think 4.. but i'm not sure lol.. if it's 4 that would make it 18 e

OpenStudy (aaronq):

i mean i think 2

OpenStudy (abb0t):

I think A is 11 +2 +3 = 16

OpenStudy (abb0t):

yeah, I think it's 2 b/c i rmr acetylene was 4.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

cuz it's the same thing as: |dw:1367436909474:dw|

OpenStudy (abb0t):

2 electons being shared on the metal

OpenStudy (aaronq):

okay yeah, that makes sense, because it can be draw either way, good stuff

OpenStudy (abb0t):

now, onto B :)

OpenStudy (abb0t):

its easier to rmr my prof telling me "all neutral molecules give 2 elctrons" :3

OpenStudy (aaronq):

okay cool. yeah, i think most molecules except like bridging ligands do

OpenStudy (abb0t):

B. i got 6 + 10 + 2 = 18 e

OpenStudy (abb0t):

2(5) = 10 carbonyl 6 = tungsten 2 = carbon double bond and it's a neutral molecule.

OpenStudy (aaronq):

so the carbon double bond would be neutral, not a -1 charge?

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Well, it's kind of line an alkene, right? So I would think it's neutral. But i'm not 100% sure :)

OpenStudy (aaronq):

i think you're right though, the double bond is 4 e donor, so it's 18 e

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Hmm...that polyhydride for C is throwing me off, haha. but I am going to guess that it's 4 since it CAN also go: |dw:1367437704926:dw| So 9 + 4 + 5 - 1 = 17

OpenStudy (abb0t):

Cp carries a -1 charge.

OpenStudy (abb0t):

I've seen it written as \(\eta^4 - C_5H_6 \)

OpenStudy (abb0t):

idk. tell me what you think :)

OpenStudy (aaronq):

hmm for the hydride, i think the charge is 0, just like in A, so.. |dw:1367438360386:dw| yea?

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