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OpenStudy (anonymous):

dy/dx=xy^3

OpenStudy (goformit100):

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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Separate variables and find the general eequation y = f(x)

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\frac{\mathrm dy}{\mathrm dx}=xy^3\] separating the varibles \[\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=x\mathrm dx\] now integrate \[\int\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int x\mathrm dx\] (dont forget the arbitrary constant of integration )

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i integrate 1/y^3? :\

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it 1/y^2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

maybe it looks easier as \(y^{-3}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it -1/y^2 or 1/y^2

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\int z^n\mathrm dz=\frac{z^{n+1}}{n+1}+c\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

@lilfayfay we did a problem exactly like this last night....

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Increase the power by one, divide by the new power.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so its -2/y^2?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Increase the power by one, DIVIDE by the new power \[\Large \int\limits y^{-3}dy = \] the old power is -3, so the new power will be -2. Which you divide the term by.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so my answer is wrong?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Well.. did you divide by -2 or multiply by -2?

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

your close, try again

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2/y^2

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

divide, by the new power, dont multiply

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y^-2/-2?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Much better.

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

yeah, but you forgot the arbitrary constant of integration

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ln|y^-2/-2|

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

am i still wrong?

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Wait... why is it now an ln expression? \[\Large \int\limits\limits y^{-3}dy = \frac{ y^{-2} }{ -2 } +C\]

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

arbitrary constant of integration = C, the constant. That doesn't mean add in a natural log.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok but how do i integrate x then if we already added the C

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

You only need to add one C. Just integrate both sides of this, and put C on whichever side you like - it's a constant, it's not picky.\[\Large \int\limits\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int\limits x\mathrm dx\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

but it says find the general equation y=f(x)

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes, you'll be able to simplify to that after integrating.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so other side would be ln|x|

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Why...? What is this equal to? \[\Large \int\limits \limits x dx = \]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/x

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Wait... what? Why?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x^2/2

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

y^-2/-2 + c1 = x^2/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then what

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

then rearrange the equation to become y=

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

^that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i do that

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

\[\Large \frac{ y^{-2} }{ -2 } + C = \frac{ x^2 }{ 2 }\] You need to move terms around and simplify, until you get y=

OpenStudy (anonymous):

would y^-2/-2 become -2/y^2

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Yes

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

nope

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

Oh, actually no. Why'd you move the -2 to the top?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:P

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

\[\int\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int x\mathrm dx\]\[\frac{y^{-2}}{-2}+c =\frac{x^2}2\] now get all the non-y terms onto the right hand side; minus c from both sides, then multiply both sides by -2 you should have \(y^{-2}=\)....

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

then take the reciprocal of both sides and finally take the square root of both sides

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

show your working @lilfayfay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

reciprocal..?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k, i got y^-2 = -x^2 + c1/2

OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):

almost, what have you done to c?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i multiplied both sides by -2

OpenStudy (agent0smith):

But you divided C by -2... and also, an unknown constant divided by -2 is still an unknown constant. \[\Large C = \frac{ C }{ -2 } = 5 \times C = 10 C = C +15 = C\] Those are all just C

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