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OpenStudy (anonymous):
Separate variables and find the general eequation y = f(x)
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\frac{\mathrm dy}{\mathrm dx}=xy^3\]
separating the varibles
\[\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=x\mathrm dx\]
now integrate
\[\int\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int x\mathrm dx\]
(dont forget the arbitrary constant of integration )
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do i integrate 1/y^3? :\
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is it 1/y^2?
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OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
maybe it looks easier as \(y^{-3}\)
OpenStudy (anonymous):
is it -1/y^2 or 1/y^2
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\int z^n\mathrm dz=\frac{z^{n+1}}{n+1}+c\]
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
@lilfayfay we did a problem exactly like this last night....
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Increase the power by one, divide by the new power.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
so its -2/y^2?
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Increase the power by one, DIVIDE by the new power
\[\Large \int\limits y^{-3}dy = \] the old power is -3, so the new power will be -2. Which you divide the term by.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so my answer is wrong?
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Well.. did you divide by -2 or multiply by -2?
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
your close, try again
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
2/y^2
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
divide, by the new power, dont multiply
OpenStudy (anonymous):
y^-2/-2?
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Much better.
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
yeah, but you forgot the arbitrary constant of integration
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ln|y^-2/-2|
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
am i still wrong?
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Wait... why is it now an ln expression?
\[\Large \int\limits\limits y^{-3}dy = \frac{ y^{-2} }{ -2 } +C\]
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
arbitrary constant of integration = C, the constant. That doesn't mean add in a natural log.
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
ok but how do i integrate x then if we already added the C
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
You only need to add one C. Just integrate both sides of this, and put C on whichever side you like - it's a constant, it's not picky.\[\Large \int\limits\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int\limits x\mathrm dx\]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
but it says find the general equation y=f(x)
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Yes, you'll be able to simplify to that after integrating.
OpenStudy (anonymous):
so other side would be ln|x|
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OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Why...? What is this equal to? \[\Large \int\limits \limits x dx = \]
OpenStudy (anonymous):
1/x
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Wait... what? Why?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
x^2/2
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Yes
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
y^-2/-2 + c1 = x^2/2
OpenStudy (anonymous):
then what
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
then rearrange the equation to become y=
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
^that
OpenStudy (anonymous):
how do i do that
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OpenStudy (agent0smith):
\[\Large \frac{ y^{-2} }{ -2 } + C = \frac{ x^2 }{ 2 }\]
You need to move terms around and simplify, until you get y=
OpenStudy (anonymous):
would y^-2/-2 become -2/y^2
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Yes
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
nope
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
Oh, actually no. Why'd you move the -2 to the top?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
:P
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
\[\int\frac{\mathrm dy}{y^3}=\int x\mathrm dx\]\[\frac{y^{-2}}{-2}+c =\frac{x^2}2\]
now get all the non-y terms onto the right hand side;
minus c from both sides,
then multiply both sides by -2
you should have \(y^{-2}=\)....
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
then take the reciprocal of both sides
and finally take the square root of both sides
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
show your working @lilfayfay
OpenStudy (anonymous):
reciprocal..?
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OpenStudy (anonymous):
k, i got y^-2 = -x^2 + c1/2
OpenStudy (unklerhaukus):
almost, what have you done to c?
OpenStudy (anonymous):
i multiplied both sides by -2
OpenStudy (agent0smith):
But you divided C by -2... and also, an unknown constant divided by -2 is still an unknown constant.
\[\Large C = \frac{ C }{ -2 } = 5 \times C = 10 C = C +15 = C\]
Those are all just C