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OpenStudy (christos):

Can you help me solve this limit? http://screencast.com/t/ad1VNJN2 The correct answer According to the book is supposed to be sqrt(5) but I get is -infinity I use These RULES: (1) if numerator's exponent value is greater then limit approaches infinity (2) if denominator's exponent value is greater then limit approaches zero (3) if both numerator and denominator's exponent value are same then limit is the coefficient of highest term in numerator divided by coefficient of highest term in denominator As you can see I used Rules #1 for my approach.

OpenStudy (christos):

@ajprincess

OpenStudy (christos):

@goformit100

OpenStudy (goformit100):

Yes your approach is correct :)

OpenStudy (christos):

But why I get wrong answer!! :(

OpenStudy (callisto):

What have you got?

OpenStudy (christos):

-infinity

OpenStudy (goformit100):

Yes What have you got ?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Have you learned L'Hopital's rule?

OpenStudy (callisto):

\[\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{5x^2 -2}}{x+3}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{\frac{5x^2 -2}{x^2}}}{\frac{x+3}{x}}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{5-\frac{2}{x^2}}}{1+\frac{3}{x}}\]

OpenStudy (callisto):

Can you do it from here?

OpenStudy (christos):

Wait wait wait Callisto, can you solve it using only the rules I posted above?

OpenStudy (christos):

I need to see where is my mistaken point of view using THOSE specific rules

OpenStudy (callisto):

#3?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

Those rules do not work until you mess around with the initial function for a little bit, then you can apply them.

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

The way i see it is:\[\frac{ \sqrt{5x^2} }{ x }=\frac{ \sqrt{5}x }{ x }=\sqrt{5}/1\]

OpenStudy (christos):

Is it how Luigi0 says @Callisto ?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

I know it's probably not right

OpenStudy (callisto):

I think the limit is not \(\sqrt{5}\). It should be \(-\sqrt{5}\) Mathematically, luigi's way is not quite right :|

OpenStudy (christos):

but you said that I should use rule 3# instead of rule 1# @callisto so we somehow have to make exponents equal

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Ha, I know it's not right but hey worth a try

OpenStudy (callisto):

\[\sqrt{x^2} = \pm x\]The degree of x in numerator and denominator are both 1. BUT you can't ignore the constant under the square root. :|

OpenStudy (christos):

if we cant ignore them then what we do?

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

ok so \[\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{5x^2 -2}}{x+3}\] divide everything by \(x\) \[lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{ \frac{1}{x} \sqrt{5x^2 -2}}{\frac{1}{x}(x+3)}\] this is to get it in a form we can solve

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

then \[lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{ \sqrt{5 -\frac{2}{x}}}{1+\frac{3}{x}}\]

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

now apply your rule #2

OpenStudy (callisto):

\[\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{5x^2 -2}}{x+3}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\frac{\sqrt{5x^2 -2}}{x}}{\frac{x+3}{x}}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{\frac{5x^2 -2}{x^2}}}{\frac{x+3}{x}}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{\frac{5x^2}{x^2} -\frac{2}{x^2}}}{\frac{x}{x}+\frac{3}{x}}\]\[=\lim _{x \rightarrow - \infty}\frac{\sqrt{5 -\frac{2}{x^2}}}{1+\frac{3}{x}}\]Now, apply #2

OpenStudy (callisto):

Btw, the right answer should be \(-\sqrt{5}\)

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

it's still positive @Callisto

OpenStudy (fibonaccichick666):

where did you get the -?

OpenStudy (callisto):

No, if x approaches to -ve infty, and the degree of x is odd, we should get a -ve.

OpenStudy (christos):

If I apply rule #2 the answer automatically gets to 0

OpenStudy (callisto):

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