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OpenStudy (anonymous):

whats the derivative of y=sin(x+y)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i use the chain rule?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and don't forget the \(y'\) when you do it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so cos(x+y)x 1 x y'

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[ y=\sin(x+y)\] \[y'=\cos(x+y)\times (1+y')\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now you have to solve for \(y'\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hope it is clear about the \(1+y'\) part

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do i solve for y'?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i divide cos(x+y) ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

should i foil?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would multiply first and get \[y'=\cos(x+y)+y'\cos(x+y)\] then maybe subtract at the \(y'(\cos(x+y')\) term and get \[y'-\cos(x+y)=\cos(x+y)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

there is no "foil" here just one multiplication

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i made a typo, last line should be \[y'-y'\cos(x+y)=\cos(x+y)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then factor out the \(y'\) term on the left and get \[y'(1-\cos(x+y))=\cos(x+y)\] and finally divide

OpenStudy (anonymous):

get \[y'=\frac{\cos(x+y)}{1-\cos(x+y)}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

awsome, thanks

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you also help me with \[h(x)=x \sqrt{x+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i used the product rule, but im not getting the right answer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sure

OpenStudy (anonymous):

use \[(fg)'=f'g+g'f\] with \[f(x)=x, f'(x)=1, g(x)=\sqrt{x+1}, g'(x)=\frac{1}{2\sqrt{x+1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

you good from there?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeahi got 1 times \[\sqrt{x+1} + x \times 1/2\sqrt{x+1}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok looks good then you can add if you like

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the answer is x+\[\sqrt{x+1}/2\sqrt{x+1}?\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

with teh plus x on top

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\sqrt{x+1}+\frac{x}{2\sqrt{x+1}}=\frac{2(x+1)+x}{2\sqrt{x+1}}\] \[=\frac{3x+2}{\sqrt{x+1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

algebra steps clear?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the final answer supposedly has a 2 on the bottom

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if you want to add \(\sqrt{x+1}+\frac{x}{2\sqrt{x+1}}\) you have to multiply the first term top and bottom by \(2\sqrt{x+1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah the final answer has a 2 in the bottom, i made a typo

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[=\frac{3x+2}{2\sqrt{x+1}}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh, hmm okay

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i just feellike every problem is completely different even if i use the rules, i never understand how to go about simplifying

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that is a problem not with the rules, but with the algebra is my guess

OpenStudy (anonymous):

calculus is unfortunately where the algebra rubber hits the road you have to be confident in doing the algebra, because that is really where almost all of the work is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

are there more or are you good?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think im okay for now. thanks for the help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yw

OpenStudy (anonymous):

God FOIL is the death of education in mathematics.

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