Two point charges lie on the 10.6cm axis. A charge of 9.2\mu C is at the origin, and a charge of -4.1\mu C is at x = 10.6cm . Part A At what position x would a third charge q_3 be in equilibrium?
Let me think! I'll have to do some research if I'm going to be able to answer this. Sorry it took so long - I had trouble opening the link!|dw:1368670714440:dw|Although, the picture has jogged my memory!
its ok. Thank you for helping. Please go on explaining
So I'm guessing the situation is this: We have those two charges, and they're going to exert a force on each other. But we want to put a charge in there to cancel out the forces?
we want to know were to put the test charge so it will be at equilibrium
|dw:1368670980346:dw|Can we name the charges like this, so they have names?
sure
OH! Test charge, so throw a q_3 in there so that the electrostatic force on it is 0?
I think that's what it's going for...
Would you agree?
Then this isn't so bad.
ok. I agree.
Okay! So\[F=k\frac{q_aq_b}{d^2}\text{ where }q_a,q_b\text{ are some charges, right?}\]
yes
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Equilibrium will mean that the two forces on the test charge (one from q1, the other from q2) add up to zero! So we can start the math (algebra, I guess)!
\[F_{q_2,q_3}=k\frac{q_2q_3}{(\Delta x)^2}\] \[F_{q_1,q_3}=k\frac{q_1q_3}{(\Delta x)^2}\]
I should have specified the different \[\Delta x\text{'s}\]sorry
\[F_{q_2,q_3}=k\frac{q_2q_3}{(x_{q_3}-x_{q_2})^2}\] \[F_{q_1,q_3}=k\frac{q_1q_3}{(x_{q_3}-x_{q_1})^2}\]
Do you agree with the "add up to zero" part? Then\[F_{q_1,q_2} + F_{q_3,q_2} = 0\]
yes. But I'm a little confused on what to put in for q3 and x
x is what we will find! And q3 could be anything, I think. The force on q3 from both q1 and q2 will increase proportionally, since the force is changing by a factor of .. just how much q3 changed. Look at the force equations to verify this. The change made to each force (q1 to q3 and q3 to q2) is identical (in terms of absolute value magnitude).
Don't worry, I think q3 should cancel out!
so do I make the two equation equal to each other and solve for x
\[F_{q_1,q_2} + F_{q_3,q_2} = 0\]\[\Downarrow\]\[F_{q_1,q_2} =- F_{q_3,q_2}\]just by subtracting one force from both sides.
Yep! Solve for \[x_{q_3}\]!
what will I put for xq1 and xq2 tho
They are the positions of q1 and q2 along the x-axis. It is how we keep track of the positions. The x-axis is really important because it gives us a reference to see where they all are compared to one another. :) Se the pictures to help!
ok, I will do it and post the answer
so what I rearrange is kq2q3/(xq3-xq2)^2=kq1q3/(xq3-xq1)^2
I just don't know how to isolate xq3
because when I do it, the cancel out
I'm about to work it out on paper as well. I hope this method isn't wrong! I would have wasted your time!
its due in a hour and I have another question that I can't get, I tried it, but its not working out
can you tell me if it works out if you get it
Yeah! And it's possible that there's an easier method that I don't remember.
oh ok.
thank tho.
You aren't given the answer, by chance, are you?
My equation looks incorrect.. But I have to go, sorry! E-mail others looking at physics, so maybe they can help!
no, I just have to sub it in. Do you have the answer tho, it might be right
Well, I got 31.887cm...
its right. Thank you so much
I got 62%, but I just mad stupid mistakes on some. Thank you so much for your help.
I'm sorry I couldn't help more!! But I guess that's over now.
its ok. It takes of marks if I round numbers and they don't match its numbers. Thank you for your help tho. Most of the time I don't get help at all.
Not as many people go into the physics section - not as much as math! I had a school program that did the same thing. It was wrong sometimes too!
But I know those mistakes, easy to make. If you need any help, feel free to e-mail me again.
I might need help in a few days, since I have another assignment on the program.
thank you
Alright, I'll try to log on every once in a while!
thank you so much. Physics isn't my best subject
I like it a lot, but I agree it's tough!
Good luck!
And take care!
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