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OpenStudy (anonymous):

solution help

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

How far did you get with it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

divided 24 on both sides

OpenStudy (anonymous):

im stuck with this problem

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Another way of saying \(\csc^2x\) is \((\csc x)^2\). Does that help?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

That makes the equation: \((\csc x)^2=\frac{32}{24}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do i square root both sides?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes. And remember the \(\pm\) issues that causes.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

how do you get the solutions once you square root it?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, that one does not look nice and friendly, so you would first flip it, then use arcsine in a calculator.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Hmmm... Or wait... that might eb nicer after being flipped.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i got 42

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(\csc x=\sqrt{\frac{32}{24}}\implies \csc x=\sqrt{\frac{8}{3}}\) \(\sin x=\sqrt{\frac{3}{8}}\) OK, so you did an arcsine on that?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I did all this..i cant get the solution

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

I got about \(\pm 38^{\circ}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

the solution is supposed to be something like pi/3+2kpi

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Luis_Rivera

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Oops. DOH! Factored out wrong! \(\csc x=\sqrt{\frac{32}{24}}\implies \csc x=\sqrt{\frac{4}{3}}\) \(\sin x=\sqrt{\frac{3}{4}}\implies \sin x=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{\sqrt{4}}\implies \sin x=\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) That makes a HUGE difference!

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Was trying to replay and it reloaded on me... took forever! Well, close enough to forever.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

reply... not replay.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

loll..wait so thats it?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

There is still the \(\pm\) issue. Because the original was squared we do not know if we are getting \(\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) or \(-\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}\) at that point. So on the unit circle, there are two possible answers.

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

So, do you know what angles those will be when solved for?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

60 and -60?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it says that it has to be between 0 and 2pi so it has to be the postive one

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Yes, which are \(\pm\frac{\pi}{3}\). Hmmm. So it is either \(\frac{\pi}{3}\) or that and the positive coterminal of \(-\frac{\pi}{3}\) which is \(\frac{5\pi}{3}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so how would the final solution look like with the correct form?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Is it solve for every angle, and just use \([0,2\pi)\) as the basis?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Or is it just find solutions between 0 and 2pi? Because that +k stuff is only on the first one.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no you have to find all the solutions...if you dont know I can ask someone else

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@.Sam. help?

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Oh, no. I know. hehe. Just clarifying. If it is all answers, then we need the \(\frac{5\pi}{3}\) one as well.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow this took 42 min lollll

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

\(x=\left\{\left(\frac{\pi}{3}+2k\pi\right),\left(\frac{5\pi}{3}+2k\pi\right)|k\in\mathbb{R}\right\}\)

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Well, my making a mistake in the middle and the site reloading on me 3 times did not help how long it took. LOL

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did that..and it says that it is incorrect

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Do they use union in this one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no just list them

OpenStudy (anonymous):

from smallest to largest value

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

Then technically, it should be \((\frac{\pi}{3}+2k\pi),(\frac{5\pi}{3}+2k\pi)\)... hmmm... possibly without the ( ). Or they did not account for the \(\pm\) and went with only \(\frac{\pi}{3}+2k\pi\). yah, that is smal;lers to largest... Wait! That usually means all in the range, not all in the universe! Try just \(\frac{\pi}{3},\frac{5\pi}{3}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

pi/3 worked but 5p/3 did not

OpenStudy (e.mccormick):

They are showing a cycle on pi, rather than 2pi... but the end result would be similar to what I was showing. OK, so.... pi/3... that is very strange. If you look at the wolfram page, that is different than what the answr should be. LOL

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