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OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

find the limit of (n^p)/(e^n) as n approaches infinity

Parth (parthkohli):

What is \(p\)?

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

P>0 I really dont even understand why they give that information accept that it shows n remains in the numerator

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

I tried to use logarithmic properties to find an answer but it just kept running me in circles

Parth (parthkohli):

\[n^p \times \frac{1}{e^{n}}\]\(e\) is a constant. Oh, and \(n^p \to \infty \) and \(\dfrac{1}{e^n} \to 0\). That can only mean that their product is approaching 0.

Parth (parthkohli):

Am I right? O_O

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Definitely not the reasoning I'd pick...

Parth (parthkohli):

Knew it.

OpenStudy (experimentx):

correct answer but wrong logic ... think about the opposite e^n/n^p and n->infinity

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I prefer simple cases... \[\Large 2e^n \rightarrow \infty\]\[\Large \frac1{e^n}\rightarrow 0\] \[\Large 2e^n \times \frac1{e^n }\rightarrow 0 \quad \color{red}?\]

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

See i don't understand becasue if you look at it as (N^p)*(1/e^n) then the n^p is infinity and the !/e^n is zero. That gives you infinity times zero which is an indeterminate form.

OpenStudy (dls):

0

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

Sorry (1/e^n)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Relax... you can either use L'Hôpital or one of my favourite theorems~ pick one

Parth (parthkohli):

Approaching infinity, not really infinity. I tried to use l'hopital: didn't work. :-|

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

The almighty Squeeze~

OpenStudy (dls):

Isnt the answer 0?

Parth (parthkohli):

ARMAGERD. How could I forget the squeeze

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

Ok I tried lopitals and it did not work nor did logarithmic properties

Parth (parthkohli):

What's the inequality BTW?

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

@DLS the answer is zero

OpenStudy (dls):

Yes,its easy.

OpenStudy (dls):

Use LH

Parth (parthkohli):

@DLS how?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

My favouraite technique is \[ a = e^{\log a} \\ n^{p} = e^{p \log n } \]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I realise that L'Hôpital may not work after all... at least, not yet... Use this... Let \(\large q = \lceil p\rceil\) such that... \[\Large 0 \le\frac{n^p}{e^n}\le \frac{n^q}{e^n}\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

q is guaranteed to be a positive integer, means it [the numerator] will (eventually) differentiate to zero...

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

@experimentX why would that help?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

L'hopital works use it least floor(p + 1)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Why deviate from the norm, @experimentX ? :D Just use ceiling :3

OpenStudy (dls):

Well observe the denominator. Its e^n.No matter how many times you differentiate it,i.e use L-Hopsital,the denominator WON'T CHANGE at all.That is the first thing.Now I say,use L hospital infinity times(not really) so if you keep on differentiating..a time will come when numerator turns out to be 0. so 0/1=1. Example: \[y=5x^4\] \[\frac{dy}{dx}=20x^3=>60x^2=>120x=>120\]

OpenStudy (chrisplusian):

Don't understand what you mean @experimentX

OpenStudy (experimentx):

@chrisplusian |dw:1369325101292:dw|

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