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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Please help! See attachment.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 can u help?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

to compute the test statistic, use this formula t = (xbar - mu)/(s/sqrt(n))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i got that its the answer i'm not understanding. like in the example. Where did the -1.04 come from?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's what you get when you type the previous step into a calculator and evaluate

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

they jumped a few steps, but hopefully you can use your calculator to get the same thing

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Well can u explain the steps there skipping cause that's i'm lost.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok one sec

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when i solve it i get 0.0496 so were how'd they get -1.04?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh you might be using different numbers in the example, they're using different values for xbar and s so that's probably why you're getting a different answer

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but let me check

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no I'm getting -0.81607512375926, one sec while I type it out

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

Test Statistic \[\large t = \frac{\bar{x} - \mu}{\frac{s}{\sqrt{n}}}\] \[\large t = \frac{37.4 - 40}{\frac{14.6}{\sqrt{21}}}\] \[\large t = \frac{37.4 - 40}{\frac{14.6}{4.58257569495583}}\] \[\large t = \frac{37.4 - 40}{3.1859811974455}\] \[\large t = \frac{-2.6}{3.1859811974455}\] \[\large t = -0.81607512375926\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i'm working on the example.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok hold on

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

From the example... Test Statistic \[\large t = \frac{\bar{x} - \mu}{\frac{s}{\sqrt{n}}}\] \[\large t = \frac{47.5 - 50}{\frac{11}{\sqrt{21}}}\] \[\large t = \frac{47.5 - 50}{\frac{11}{4.58257569495584}}\] \[\large t = \frac{47.5 - 50}{2.40039679259592}\] \[\large t = \frac{-2.5}{2.40039679259592}\] \[\large t = -1.04149447612633\] \[\large t = -1.04\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok i'm gunna try to solve it like that to see if i get the same.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well dang. lol i got -1.04. i guess i'm supposed to solve it step by step not all at once.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you can jump to the end if you type it into your calculator properly

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you would type in (47.5 - 50)/(11/sqrt(21)) to get -1.04149447612633

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was putting it into mathway.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh you're probably better off using a TI calculator or something like that

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so the answer for (37.4-40)/(14.6/sqrt(21))=-0.82?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

that's correct

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it's saying i'm wrong.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh you need to go to 3 decimal places (not 2)

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so t = -0.816

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i did that -0.816

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

oh n = 22, not n = 21, so t = -0.835

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh lol ok it's right now

OpenStudy (anonymous):

now part b)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think it's 1.721

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one sec

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

n = 22 still right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i thought u do n-1 so it be 22-1=21?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

ok thought so, yeah df = n-1

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and I'm getting 1.721 as well

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but it's negative since we have a left tail test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well it says it's wrong. :(

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah it should be -1.721 since it's a left tail test

OpenStudy (anonymous):

YAY that's right! lol

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lol great

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you got what

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think it's B

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yep, you got it

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

left tail test ----> rejection region (shown in blue) is in left tail to left of critical value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

what was the test statistic what is the critical value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-0.835 & -1.721?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so is the test statistic a) to the left of the critical value or b) to the right of the critical value

OpenStudy (anonymous):

a)?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

-0.835 is to the left of -1.721? ie you're saying -0.835 is less than -1.721?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

UGH idk to the right then?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

think of a number line, the number -1.721 is further away from 0 than -0.835 is so that's why -0.835 is to the right of -1.721

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

since the test statistic does NOT lie in the critical region (aka the rejection region) you fail to reject the null hypothesis

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you only reject the null hypothesis if the test statistic lies in the blue critical region or rejection region in this case, it does not, so you fail to reject the null

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok so ether B or C right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

do you reject the null hypothesis (based off what I just said)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

no?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

UGH i have know idea!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you sound unsure, you're correct though

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

basically the value -0.835 is NOT in the blue rejection region so that's why you don't reject the null

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i IS ether B or C?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

it's C because you don't reject the null

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you don't reject the null since it's not in the rejection region

OpenStudy (anonymous):

great! lol got time to help with another question?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

sure

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one more

OpenStudy (anonymous):

THANK YOU!!

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

np

OpenStudy (anonymous):

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

one min

OpenStudy (anonymous):

kk

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

hmm I'm on the fence as to whether to use n = 148 or n = 500 because it makes a huge difference in the answer

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and is there an example given? if so, then I'm curious as to if it uses scientific notation

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Hows this?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah it's kinda lame because the answer is so small that it's practically 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I'm getting 1.1756 * 10^(-21) which is basically 0 since it's so small so that's why I think you just enter 0.0000

OpenStudy (anonymous):

HAHAHA that was the answer! now can u explain exactly what u did to get that so i know next time.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well I first found the test statistic, which is -9.938 then I found the area to the left of that test statistic using df = 499 the answer I got was 1.1756 * 10^(-21)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ok that makes a little sense.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I used wolfram alpha's tcdf function to get the area

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lol i never understand how to use wolfram alpha.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thank you for the help. I seem to need it a lot. lol odds are i'll be back on tomorrow.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

you're welcome

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