Help with 1-3 Exercises
they dont really tell you that smaller sets are easier to work with do they .....
\[mean:~\frac{a+b+c+...+z}{n}\] \[adjusted~mean:~\frac{(a+b+c+...+z)-kn}{n}=\frac{a+b+c+...+z}{n}-k\] in other words, for large numbers, you can make it easier on yourself by subtracing a common value from all data set, finding the mean, and adding back the value you subtracted
since to find the standard deviation, you have to subtract the mean to start with, the smaller set is already closer to what you need ..... the standard deviation of the smaller set is equal to the larger set
the decimals can be adjusted in a similar fashion:\[\frac{ar+br+cr+...+zr}{n}=r\frac{a+b+c+...+z}{n}\]
-2,2,-1,6,-3,3,-1,-4?... How to i plug them in?
you have 3 sets of numbers to play with; im not sure which one you are working on with those
Number 1..
ohhh hmm lol i dont understand.... 4, 8, 5, 12, 3, 9, 5, 2 . Could you help me from the beginning ... how i get the mean ?
id suggest subtracting 4 from the given set then: { 4, 8, 5, 12, 3, 9, 5, 2} - 4 { 0, 4, 1, 8, -1, 5, 1, -2} add em up 16 since there are 8 numbers to begin with, we divide this by 8 16/8 = 2, 2 is the mean of the smaller set .... not that we really needed to so this for this set, but its good practice since we subtracted 4, lets add it back: 2+4 = 6 which is the mean of the larger set
ooohh i see
notice that if we had chosen to subtract 6 to start with; the mean of the smaller set would have been zero: { 4, 8, 5, 12, 3, 9, 5, 2} - 6 { -2, 2, -1, 6, -3, 3, -1, -4}; add em up to get: 0, and 0+6 = 6
the standard deviation is a process of zeroing out the mean and squareing the results since our mean is 6: { 4, 8, 5, 12, 3, 9, 5, 2} - 6 produces { -2, 2, -1, 6, -3, 3, -1, -4} so lets square these and add em up { -2, 2, -1, 6, -3, 3, -1, -4} { 4, 4, 1, 36, 9, 9, 1, 16} { 80 }
divide again by the number of data points given, in this case 8 80/8 = 10 ; this value is called the variance and then take the square root of it: sqrt(10)
this process will become more apparent on the second problem that has larger numbers
okay i get it... so for the second one 102 98 103 86 101 110 it's -102? then add them
the value you subtract by is completely up to you; its only purpose is to make you life simpler. as a rule of thumb, you want it to be as close to the mean as possible, id use about half the range: 80 to 102 is the range; so 100 seems to be a good guess of the mean:
102 98 103 86 101 110 -100 .............................. ------------------------- 2 -2 3 -14 1 10
i think that sums up to zero .... and 0 + 100 = 100
well, 0/6 = 0 for the smaller set ... and add back the 100 :)
you see how in step 2 it tells you to subtract the mean from the data set? since 100 is the mean of the data set, and we (by luck) already subtracted 100 to get our smaller set .... we dont need to rework it again do we :)
standard deviation is: square, add, divide, then sqrt 2 -2 3 -14 1 10
so we add these now?? then divide the added numbers
yep, think of it like finding the mean of the squares
square these first, then add em
2 -2 3 -14 1 10 4 4 9 196 1 100 <-- now add
ahhh 314 then divide
is 52.3333
correct, since this is a "population" of 6 data points ... divide by 6 to determine the variance 52.333333 is good standard deviation is the square root of variance; so sqrt that
7.23417813807024
correct, and clean that up as needed, prolly rounded to like 7.23
do you know the difference between a population, and a sample?
Thanks so much for helping me...
no i do not
if you are getting further into statistics with this, which is the whole reason for learning this to begin with .... a sample is a subset of a population. the standard deviation of a "sample" will be 1 less then the dataset for example, in this case, 6-1 = 5, we would have divided the variance by 5 and sqrted for the "sample" standard deviation
if you are not having to do these things by hand, then my "smaller set" work is not needed. A calculator will addem all up just as easily
\[mean=\frac{sum(data~set)}{\#~data~set}\]
okay thanks. so for the #3. 8.2, 11.6, 8.7, 10.6, 9.4, 10.1, 9.3
oh no , 2.25,3.61,1,0.810000000000001,0.0899999999999994,0.16,0.159999999999999
sum {8.2, 11.6, 8.7, 10.6, 9.4, 10.1, 9.3} http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sum+%7B8.2%2C+11.6%2C+8.7%2C+10.6%2C+9.4%2C+10.1%2C+9.3%7D
if by calculator, just sum up the dataset as is ..... makes for less work
i wanted to see how to work was completed cause the calculator just give answers.
Your awsome though thanks for helping :)
:) youre welcome
if by hand, i would have considered multiplying by 10 and finding the mean {8.2, 11.6, 8.7, 10.6, 9.4, 10.1, 9.3} * 10 {82, 116, 87, 106, 94, 101, 93} 80 to 120 range, so about 100 guess on the mean is fine {82, 116, 87, 106, 94, 101, 93} - 100 {-18, 16, -13, 6, -6, 1, -7}, add em up {-21} there are 7 numbers in the dataset: -21/7 = -3 the mean of this smaller set is -3, add back 100 to get 97 .... but thats not working out like a want it to so i will have to consider why .... and adjust it appropriately
\[\frac{(d_1-k)r+(d_2-k)r+(d_3-k)r+...+(d_n-k)r}{n}\] \[r~\frac{d_1-k+d_2-k+d_3-k+...+d_n-k}{n}\] \[r~(\frac{d_1+d_2+d_3+...+d_n}{n}-k)\] i see, i cant divide out the decimals first, i would have to reduce the set and then divide out 10 .... bummer
sorry, i was doing fine; 9.7 is the mean -3 + 100 = 97 97/10 = 9.7 i entered the wrong values to begin with :)
k How do i show the work ?
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