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OpenStudy (christos):

Can you help me find this limit: http://screencast.com/t/6CD9ErAG3N9m All I need is the first step, I am gonna climb from there easily. Sorry if it's a little unclear picture, it's from an old book

OpenStudy (christos):

@ganeshie8 @Mertsj

OpenStudy (anonymous):

for reference, the answer is \[-\sqrt3/2\] i do not remember the steps though, sorry

OpenStudy (christos):

I know the answer too my friend, but I dont know how to find it, thanks though

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry i could not help :/

OpenStudy (anonymous):

CANT EVEN SEE THE QUESTION

OpenStudy (christos):

How Come?? The guy above you saw it , I posted a picture

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

I can't see it either. what is the limit going to? Can't make it out after the arrow

OpenStudy (christos):

infinity+ ....

OpenStudy (christos):

+ infinity ***** I am sorry

OpenStudy (anonymous):

lim of x going to positive infinity of sin((pi*x)/(2-3x))

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty}\sin (\frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x })\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

can you actually take the pic clearly?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} Sin (\frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x })\]

OpenStudy (christos):

Yes

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Now Stewie can stop trolling, lol. xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

VICTORY?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

I want to learn this too

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Same here.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes or no?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

who is teaching??

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

You can divide by the highest power in the denominator which is x

OpenStudy (christos):

But how does that lead you to the solution which is -sqrt(3)/2

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Can't you? \[\large \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty}\sin(\frac{ \pi x/x }{ \frac{ 2 }{ x }-\frac{ 3x }{ x } })\]

OpenStudy (christos):

yes and then?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

So what is \[\sin(-\frac{ \pi }{ 3 })\]? Whcih quadrant is sine negative ?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} \sin \frac{ x }{ x }(\frac{ \pi }{ \frac{ 2 }{ x } - 3 })\]

OpenStudy (christos):

@myko @timo86m @jim_thompson5910 @jhonyy9 @Hero @Euler271

OpenStudy (christos):

The result is most likely engative yea

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

Sin (- pi / 3)

OpenStudy (christos):

negative*

OpenStudy (christos):

yes but HOW @rajee_sam

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Sine is negative in quadrant 3 and 4, so if \[\sin \frac{ \pi }{ 3 } = \frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 2 }\] then \[\sin -\frac{ \pi }{ 3 }= -\frac{ \sqrt{3} }{ 2 }\]

OpenStudy (christos):

Am I eligible to differantiate this thing ? because if we differantiate we get sin(pi/-3)

OpenStudy (christos):

instantly

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

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OpenStudy (jhannybean):

You just need to find the positive radian measure, which is \[\frac{ \pi }{ }\] and then translate it accordingly to find which negative value is correlated with the positive radian measure

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

\[\sin ( -\theta ) = - \sin (\theta)\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

sorry,i meant pi/3 *

OpenStudy (christos):

how did you get the x out @rajee_sam

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

I am taking a GCF for both numerator and denominator so that I can cancel them out and do not have any x multiplied with anything

OpenStudy (christos):

GCF ?

OpenStudy (rajee_sam):

Common Factor

OpenStudy (phi):

\[\lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty}\sin \left(\frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x }\right) = \sin\left( \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} \frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x }\right)\] as noted above you can rewrite \[ \frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x } = \frac{ \pi }{\frac{2}{x} -3} \]

OpenStudy (christos):

Alright! Alright! I solved it this way! By during the time I was trying to solve this I figured out a second way! Tell me if this is correct: Just taking the derivative of both denominator and numerator and then we are done. Can I apply this to ANY limit? Because here it works!

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

that's what i did pi.... :(

OpenStudy (christos):

@phi

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

if you're taking the derivative you'll have to use chain rule on the whole thing, sin (whatever's inside) and then * whatever is inside.

OpenStudy (phi):

yes, you can use L'Hopital's rule http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L'Hôpital's_rule if you get 0/0 or inf/inf

OpenStudy (christos):

and no chain rule??

OpenStudy (christos):

I am talking about this specific problem

OpenStudy (phi):

no, use chain rule. use \[ \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty}\sin \left(\frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x }\right) = \sin\left( \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} \frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x }\right) \]

OpenStudy (phi):

*do not use chain rule

OpenStudy (christos):

but even if I dont use the chain rule we end up to the same result

OpenStudy (christos):

Ohh so this formula you showed to me just now is only when we have 0/0 or infinite/infinite ?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Oh I see, and you'd use LH rule to simplify it further and end up with the same result.

OpenStudy (phi):

using L'Hopital's rule needs 0/0 or inf/inf use it on \[ \lim_{x \rightarrow +\infty} \frac{ \pi x }{ 2-3x } \]

OpenStudy (christos):

ok and I get this http://screencast.com/t/jPlMQFrZ What now?

OpenStudy (phi):

you can use L'Hopital d top/ d bottom = pi/-3 or you can use algebra

OpenStudy (christos):

and the lim(x-->+infinity) goes away?

OpenStudy (christos):

oh I get you now

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