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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Suppose f(x) --> 150 and g(x) -->0 with g(x)<0 as x--> 3. Determine lim as x-->3 f(x)/g(x).

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

lim (f/g) = 150/(some really small negative number) = -infinity you can make up a table for y = 150/x for values of x < 0 and you'll see y becoming a larger and larger negative number

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@jim_thompson5910 I don't understand why you do 150/x though.How am i supposed to know to ignore g(x)-->0 and put in x, but for f(x) just use 150? Thanks

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

well since f(x) --> 150 as x--> 3, this means that the limit of f/g will have you replace f with 150 the same will apply to g(x) as well...but you'd get 0 in the denominator, which is undefined

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so what you have to do is use a table to see what happens to the y values as x gets closer and closer to 0 you use the equation y = 150/x to make the table

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

and you'll be looking at x values less than 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Right that makes sense, so as x gets further and further away from 0 (more negative), y gets closer and closer to 0, but still negative just very small. Is that the right way to think about it?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Since if x=-1, then y=-150. If x=-2, then y=-75, and so on?

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

but you're getting x closer and closer to 0

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

if x = -1, then y = -150 if x = -0.1, then y = -1500 if x = -0.01, then y = -15000 if x = -0.001, then y = -150000 etc etc

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh, why is x getting closer and closer to 0? Also whats the point of x--3? Seems irrelevant to the problem.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

no it's relevant, I'm just referring to g(x) as x

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

basically it should be as g(x) ---> 0, f(x)/g(x) ---> -infinity since g(x) < 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Nevermind i understand why we do smaller x values getting closer to 0. However i still dont understand x--> 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

I was using y = 150/x because it's easier to write out

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got that part, but whats the 3 have to do with anything.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

not much really, all we care about is what f(x) and g(x) are approaching

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Thats what confuses me. It makes sense though now, Thanks, i appreciate it.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

the only thing the x --> 3 has to do with is the fact that f(x) ---> 150 as x ---> 3 and g(x) ---> 0 as x ---> 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

then they ask what does f/g approach as x ----> 3

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

so that's the only real use of the "x ---> 3" part

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Oh okay, since g(x) is limited by g(x)<0, the 3 could be replaced by any positive number really, and the problem would be the same.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yeah you could easily replace all the '3' numbers with '10' or something and it wouldn't matter

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Gotcha, Thanks again.

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

same with 150 since that doesn't affect the answer of -infinity either

jimthompson5910 (jim_thompson5910):

yw

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