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OpenStudy (dls):

http://i3.minus.com/jPwLpw8HTXe6n.PNG

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think there is no closed form !!! maybe?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

This is complicated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faulhaber's_formula

OpenStudy (dls):

even if use LH,on solving numerator i get,log(n!)

OpenStudy (experimentx):

post the original question ... http://i3.minus.com/jPwLpw8HTXe6n.PNG

OpenStudy (dls):

done already :P

OpenStudy (dls):

am I right with the numerator derivative?

OpenStudy (dls):

and on simplifying denominator..(didnt take derivative yet) \[\Large (n+1)^{a-1} (((na)^n+\frac{n(n+1)}{2}))\]

OpenStudy (experimentx):

\[ \Large (n+1)^{a-1} (((n^2a)+\frac{n(n+1)}{2}))\]

OpenStudy (dls):

??

OpenStudy (experimentx):

n times na = n^2 a not (na)^n

OpenStudy (dls):

what next?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

make use of Faulhaber's formula ...

OpenStudy (dls):

alternates? cause saw it first time...

OpenStudy (experimentx):

no ... just take first term. Can't believe High Schooler get's problem like this. I myself haven't proved this formula. \[ \frac{1}{a+1} \cdot \frac{n^{a+n}}{n^{a-1} \cdot n^2 (a+1/2)} = 1/60 \]

OpenStudy (experimentx):

*a+1 at the top.

OpenStudy (dls):

hmm..im sure there must be an alternate though,these formulaes are hard to memorize and difficult to apply..

OpenStudy (experimentx):

still this is not working

OpenStudy (dls):

bang !

OpenStudy (experimentx):

numerically I found a=7 Limit[Sum[k^7, {k, 1, n}]/((n)^(6) (n^2 7 + n (n + 1)/2)) , n -> Infinity]

OpenStudy (dls):

use eq.editor!

OpenStudy (experimentx):

that is mathematica code

OpenStudy (dls):

oh hmm

OpenStudy (experimentx):

Damn ... I had been doing opposite!! putting 60 instead of 1/60 http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1%2F%28a%2B1%29*1%2F%28a%2B1%2F2%29+%3D+1%2F60

OpenStudy (experimentx):

Unfortunately, both B) and D) works ... where the hell did you get this question?

OpenStudy (dls):

i told you about IIT right :O

OpenStudy (experimentx):

For D = -17/2, the sum does not converge .. so your answer is B), a=7

OpenStudy (dls):

hmm..thanks,but how :O

OpenStudy (experimentx):

Solve this equation \[ \Large \lim_{n \to \infty } \frac{1}{a+1} \cdot \frac{n^{a+1}}{(n+1)^{a-1} \cdot n^2 (a+1/2)} = 1/60\]

OpenStudy (dls):

u used that formula?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

yes

OpenStudy (dls):

hmm..okaythanks!

OpenStudy (experimentx):

just remember this \[ \sum_{k=0}^n k^a = \frac{1}{a+1 }O(n^{a+1})\] I think you can prove this using Euler summation formula ... but let's not get there. \[ \sum_{k=0}^n k^a \approx \int_0^n x^{k}dx\]

OpenStudy (dls):

okay..!

OpenStudy (experimentx):

let's see if anyone can come up with better method.

OpenStudy (dls):

@hartnn

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