Find the derivative of f(x)=5/x at x = -1.
by hand i bet
I worked it out to [(5/x+h)-(5/x)]/h but I'm not sure if the 5 and x cancel out or not.
\[f(x)=\frac5x\] Then : \[f'(x)=-\frac{5}{x^2}\] So : \[f'(-1)=-\frac{5}{(-1)^2}=-5\]
Shouldn't you use the derivative equation
@Noura11
\[\lim_{x\to -1}\frac{\frac{5}{x}+5}{x+1} \]
I don't know how to do that. What did you do there?
if you are doing this by hand, not by shortcut methods, then \[\f'(a)=\lim_{x\to a}\frac{f(x)-f(a)}{x-a}\]
since \(f(-1)=-5\) in your case you get \[f'(-1)=\lim_{x\to -1}\frac{\frac{5}{x}+5}{x+1}\]
then it is algebra from here on in simplify the complex fraction to get \[\frac{\frac{5+5x}{x}}{x+1}=\frac{\frac{5(x+1)}{x}}{x+1}=\frac{5}{x}\]
take the limit by replacing \(x\) by \(-1\) and get \(-5\) of course the shortcut method is quicker
if you want to compute \[\frac{\frac{5}{x+h}-\frac{5}{x}}{h}\] we can do that too
I'm doing precal so I haven't been introduced to any shortcuts. I think I understand now. Thank you for your help. I just thought you were supposed to use the derivative equation which is what I did. Can we try it that way
I got to that part, but I don't know what to do from there
it is just more algebra the numerator is \[\frac{5x-5(x+h)}{x(x+h)}=\frac{-5h}{x(x+h)}\]
then when you divide by \(h\) the \(h\) cancels and you are left with \[\frac{-5}{x(x+h)}\]
What happened to the second five?
take the limit as \(h\to 0\) and get \(-\frac{5}{x^2}\) then replace \(x\) by \(-1\) and get \(-5\)
lets go slow
Okay.
this is what you have to compute \[\lim_{h\to 0}\frac{\frac{5}{x+h}-\frac{5}{x}}{h}\]
now lets ignore the \(h\) in the denominator for a moment, and concentrate only on \[\frac{5}{x+h}-\frac{5}{x}\]
\[\frac{a}{b}-\frac{c}{d}=\frac{ad-bc}{bd}\] so \[\frac{5}{x+h}-\frac{5}{x}=\frac{5x-5(x+h)}{x(x+h)}\] so far so good?
So you cross multiplied and then multiplied the denominators?
yes
just like with numbers right? \[\frac{5}{7}-\frac{3}{8}=\frac{5\times 8-7\times 3}{7\times 8}\]
yes
now we can compute \[\frac{5x-5(x+h)}{x(x+h)}=\frac{5x-5x-5h}{x(x+h)}=\frac{-5h}{x(x+h)}\]
ok to there?
okay. Now I see where the second five went. It got cancelled out. I'm ok
now don't forget there was an \(h\) in the denominator of the original expression when you divide \(\frac{-5h}{x(x+h)}\) by \(h\) you are left only with \(-\frac{5}{x(x+h)}\)
I got that. what next
@satellite73
So where'd you leave off? You were able to get a common denominator and combine those two fractions? \[\large \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{-5}{x(x+h)}\] Need help from this step?
Yes!
We can from this point plug zero directly in for h, since it no longer causes a problem for us.
and then put -1 in for x^2?
So we started with \(\large f(x)=\dfrac{5}{x}\) By using the limit definition of the derivative we were able to determine that \(\large f'(x)=-\dfrac{5}{x^2}\) And now they're asking for \(\large f'(-1)\). Yes very good :) plug away!
Thank you so much! Would you like to help me with another problem? It involves finding a limit algebraically.
Close this thread, it's gotten rather long and messy. Open a new one with your new question. Yah I'll come take a look :)
thank you!
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