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OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Simple derivative question, help?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

\[y=\frac{ x^3\ln2x }{ e^xsinx }\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

you just want the answer, or what?

OpenStudy (yrelhan4):

You first need to apply the quotient rule and then chain rule to both denominator and numerator..

OpenStudy (yrelhan4):

where are you stuck?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

I thought you weren't allowed to give out answers? And I think I got it I just wanna see if I did it right

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

you can skip the quotient rule by rewriting as \[y = e^{-x}x^3 \csc x \ln 2x\]

OpenStudy (yrelhan4):

Yeah you arent allowed to give out answers.. and yeah you can do that too.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

No one gave out an answer, or even offered to give out an answer.

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

>.> Well here's what I got: \[\frac{ dy }{ dx }=\frac{ x^3\ln2x }{ e^xsinx }(\frac{ 3 }{ x }+\frac{ 1 }{ xln2 }-1-cotx)\]

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

That might not be correct...

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Hm, the whole answer?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

I'm not so sure about the dy/dx part ;-)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

how did you come up with that \(\ln 2\)?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

oops, that's suppose to be a xln2x

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

See, I told you it might not be correct :-)

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

I see >.>

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

I got it, haha thanks! @whpalmer4

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

what did you get for the final result?

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

ha.. actually i don't got it

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

\[\large y=\frac{ x^3\ln2x }{ e^xsinx }\]\[\large f'(x) = 3x^2(\ln(2x))+\left( \frac{x^3}{x}\right) = 3x^2\ln(2x) +x^2 \]\[\large g'(x)= e^x \sin(x)+e^xcos(x)\] that's a start.

OpenStudy (yrelhan4):

i dont think you can differentiate numerator and the denominator separately?

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

I'm not.

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Pfft, this girls got it :P

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

The quotient rule states \[y' = \frac{f'(x)\cdot g(x) -g'(x)\cdot f(x)}{g^2(x)}\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

So... i stated what the derivatives were, and you know what the other parts are, just....plug them in :)

OpenStudy (yrelhan4):

oh, you were doing that.. sorry.

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Ha, calm down Jhanny ^_^'

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

hes solving it :P

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[y = e^{-x}x^3\ln 2x \csc x\]let \(u=e^{-x}, v=x^3\ln 2x \csc x\) and apply the product rule: \[\frac{dy}{dx} = x^3 \ln 2x \csc x \frac{d}{dx}[e^{-x}] + e^{-x}\frac{d}{dx}[x^3\csc x \ln 2x ]\]\[\frac{d}{dx}[e^{-x}] = -e^{-x}\]\[\frac{dy}{dx} =-e^{-x} x^3 \ln 2x \csc x + e^{-x}\frac{d}{dx}[x^3\csc x \ln 2x ]\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Ugh this is too long!!

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

Sorry for a long problem :l

OpenStudy (luigi0210):

@Jhannybean I thought you loved long problems? :P

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

no <_< lol....

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

I'll upload a picture of what i've written. You can all experience my beautiful handwriting.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\[\frac{d}{dx}[x^3 \csc x\ln 2x] =\]Let \(u=x^3, v=\log 2x\csc x\)\[\frac{d}{dx}[x^3 \csc x\ln 2x] = \csc x\log 2x * 3x^2 + x^3\frac{d}{dx}[\csc x\log 2x]\] \[\frac{d}{dx}[\csc x\log 2x] = \] Let \(u=\csc x, v=\log 2x\)\[\frac{d}{dx}[\csc x\log2x] = \log 2x \frac{d}{dx}[\csc x]+\csc x\frac{d}{dx}[\log 2x]\] \[= -\cot x\csc x\log 2x + \csc x\frac{d}{dx}[\log 2x]\]

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

OpenStudy (jhannybean):

Night all. good Luck @Luigi0210 :)

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

\(u=2x\)\[\frac{d}{dx}[\ln 2x] = \frac{1}{ 2x}*2 = \frac{1}x\] \[\frac{d}{dx}[x^3\csc x\ln 2x] =3x^2\csc x\ln 2x + x^3( -\cot x\csc x \log 2x + \frac{\csc x}{x})\] \[\frac{dy}{dx} =-e^{-x} x^3 \ln 2x \csc x + e^{-x}\frac{d}{dx}[x^3\csc x \ln 2x ]\] \[=-e^{-x} x^3 \ln 2x \csc x -e^{-x}(3x^2\csc x\ln 2x + x^3(-\cot x\csc x \ln 2x+\frac{\csc x}{x}))\]\[=-e^{-x}x^3\csc x\ln 2x - 3x^2e^{-x}\csc x\ln 2x+e^{-x}x^3\csc x\ln 2x\cot x-e^{-x}x^2\csc x\]\[=-e^{-x}x^2\csc x( x\ln 2x-3\ln 2x + x\cot\ln 2x-1)\]\[=-e^{-x}x^2\csc x(( x-3)\ln 2x-3x\ln 2x + x\cot\ln 2x-1)\] Trying to spot mistakes looking at the LaTex code is painful!

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

first correction: \[=-e^{-x}x^2\csc x(( x-3)\ln 2x-3x\ln 2x + x\cot x\ln 2x-1)\]

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