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OpenStudy (dls):

Limits help lim x->i- e^{x}-{x}-1/{x}^2

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\Huge \lim_{x \rightarrow I^{-}} \frac{e^{(x)}-{(x)}-I}{{(x)^2}}\]where (x)=FRACTIONAL PART OF X.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what is I?

OpenStudy (dls):

any Integer

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i belongs to interger, then fractional part of it should be 0.

OpenStudy (dls):

yup.

OpenStudy (dls):

that is why we have limit :O 1/0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yea, so the limit is infinity.

OpenStudy (dls):

i have the options

OpenStudy (dls):

1/2 e-2 I does not exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does not exist

OpenStudy (dls):

it says TENDING to integer not exact integer..

OpenStudy (anonymous):

where did you find this question?

OpenStudy (dls):

textbook

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it cannot be determined. i guess, terms cannot be adjusted, in order to calculate the limit.

OpenStudy (dls):

\[\Huge \lim_{x \rightarrow I^{-}} \frac{e^{(x)}-{(x)}-1}{{(x)^2}}\]

OpenStudy (dls):

how about now :o

OpenStudy (dls):

is it e-2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

u may let \(t=(x)\) it becomes\[ \lim_{t \rightarrow 0} \frac{e^t-t-1}{{t^2}}\]u can use series expansion of \(e^t\) or LHR

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so..1/2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

1/2 what i got as answer :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thankyou! did not think of this anyways. nice!

OpenStudy (zarkon):

if (x) is the fractional part of a number then we would have for example (5.9)=.9 ...correct?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

so what if I was 6...then you would be coming from the lft...so numbers like 5.9 5.99 5.999 so as \(x\to 6\) we have \((x)\to 1\)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

from the left

OpenStudy (anonymous):

thats right, we made a mistake

OpenStudy (zarkon):

then again...what if I was -6

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x-->6, {x}-->0 {x} belongs to [0,1).

OpenStudy (anonymous):

if -6 then (x) --> 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i guess not.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so the limit depends on \(I\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

any real number t can be express as \[t=I+f\] where I belongs to an interger and f is called the fractional part of t where \[f \epsilon [0,1)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well thats right\[\text{{x}=}x-[x]\]and \(\text{{x}} \in [0,1)\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then how can {x} be equal to 1?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it approaches to 1 and is not equal to 1... thats what we need in taking limit :)

OpenStudy (zarkon):

a limit point need not be a member of the original set

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then there exists 2 limits the left and the right limit.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

a right hand limit would be more interesting

OpenStudy (anonymous):

previous one was the left limit. what about the right limit then?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

the right would be the 1/2 you previously obtained.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

exactly..botht the limits are not equal.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

the limit from the left is not the same as from the right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then, limit at x=I does not exist.?

OpenStudy (zarkon):

this \[\lim_{x \to I} \frac{e^{(x)}-{(x)}-1}{{(x)^2}}\] does not exist

OpenStudy (anonymous):

does not exist.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

if you are allowed to come from both direction then the limit does not exist....if you just come from the right then the answer is 1/2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

you should also double check that you wrote down the problem correctly.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i didn't give this question.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

well, now i see, its given limit at the left., it was not visible..lol! i didn't see this. not visible properly.

OpenStudy (zarkon):

ah...I guess we lost the original poster a while back ;)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

eh yea..that was silly, but the discussion was good.

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