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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Find the kernel and range

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I need to find the kernel and range og each of the following linear operators on P_3: (a): \[L(p(x))=xp'(x)\] (b) \[L(p(x))=p(x)-p'(x)\] (c) \[L(p(x))=p(0)x+p(1)\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

What's p(x)? Some function? Or maybe a polynomial?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Not that it matters, really, apparently. Now, kernel, it's the set of all elements in your domain (and in your case, it seems that the domain consists of functions) that are mapped to zero.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I just have the following information

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Granted :) Let's do (a) L(p(x)) = xp'(x) So equate this to zero... xp'(x) = 0 What do you get?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Stay with me here... @RFJ-86 XD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

xp'(x) = 0 When the product of two elements is zero, then (assuming the field has characteristic zero, but never mind that >.< ) at least one of them has to be zero. So either x = 0 or p'(x) = 0

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

And while you're thinking about that, I think \(P_3\) is the set of polynomials of degree 3. What do you think @experimentX ?

OpenStudy (experimentx):

p(x) = constant <-- kernet image is a a polynomial of degree 'n' with no constant term ... i think

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no, I meant what is \(P_3\). We'd have a right better change at figuring out the ranges if we knew what it is :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

chance* sorry

OpenStudy (experimentx):

oh ... you meant what is P_3 , i suppose it is what you think.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Right. Proceeding given that then :)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

@RFJ-86 Once again... either x = 0 or p'(x) = 0 and if p'(x) = 0 what must be p(x)?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

A constant?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Correct :3 So, the kernel of that operator is the set of all constants :) (Actually, it's the set of all constants union the set {0} but then again, 0 is also a constant)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Can you do the next one?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

p(x)=p'(x)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So p(x)=0

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

that's right :) (assuming P_3 are polynomials of course, otherwise, an obvious candidate would be multiples of e^x ^_^ )

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

The only 'polynomial' whose derivative is itself is the zero-polynomial :) Do the last one :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

p(0)x=p(1)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

so... what's the kernel?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry -p(0)x=p(1)

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Still not the kernel... that's just an equation. Kernel is a set :P

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Please remember that we are dealing with polynomials themselves and not with finding the value of x.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

The kernel would be a set of certain polynomials...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Okay.. So (a) --> all constant (b) --> 0 (c) --> a set of polynomials

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

c is not yet answered. You need to be specific as to what set of polynomials it is :P

OpenStudy (anonymous):

hmm...

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I cant spot the solution. :(

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Well for p(0)x + p(1) to be the zero polynomial both p(0) and p(1) have to be zero. So... it's the set of (max degree 3) polynomials with both 0 and 1 as roots. Or the set x(x - 1)(ax + b) for all real numbers a and b

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Of course.. And the range?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

range ... the set of all possible images.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So for c it is all real numbers?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no... if you must have notation, it's the set \[\Large \left\{x(x-1)(ax+b) \left|a,b \in \mathbb{P}\right.\right\}\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Så for (a) i can write the range this way? (with {}) \[k |\in R\] @terenzreignz

OpenStudy (anonymous):

*so

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

the range for the first is the entire P3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

k | k in P3

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

yeah :) again, to stress, your ranges are sets of polynomials, not numbers.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Sorry but my math notation is bad.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

:)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

And d is {0 | 0 in P3}

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry b

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

no, that's the kernel. you need the range

OpenStudy (anonymous):

How can I write b?

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I'm still scratching my head as to the range :D

OpenStudy (experimentx):

1) i think range is in p_n(x) - p_n(0), p_n(x), p_1(x) not sure how to write that.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@experimentX So you don't think the ranges in (c) are {x(x-1)*(ax+b)| a,b in P} or what?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@terenzreignz

OpenStudy (experimentx):

the range is of the form ax + b ... a two dimensional vector space.

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