Dividing polynomials i'll post the post :)
@e.mccormick how do i do 57 and 61 ?? >.<
With 57, if you do synthetic div. and get a remainder of 0, it is a root (zero). Then you have a simpler poly to factor for the others.
can you show me how?
Can you do the synthetic division?
is this where c=3 turns into x-3?
With synthetic, just use it as 3. Less writing.
how?
Trying to find a latex command to show this better.
Sorry bout the delay. Seen things like this:\[\begin{matrix}3\\ \\ \end{matrix} \left|\begin{matrix} 1 & -1 &-11&15 \\ & & \\ \hline \end{matrix}\right.\]
1 -2 -17 -36 ?
hmmm... Lets see where that got off the tracks.... ah. How did you get -2?
its 1 2 5 0
1 2 -5 0, you lost the - in what you typed, but I can tell you did it right because you got the 0.
That 0 means there is no remainder. Therefore 3 is a root! (Or zero... they mean the same thing)
Now, we started with \(x^3-x^2-11x+15\) and what we got was: \((x-3)(x^2+2x-5)\) Do you see the relationship between what I just wrote and the synthetic division?
in the back it says that the answer is -1 plus/minus square root of 6
Well, if you put \(x^2+2x-5\) into the quadratic formula, I bet that is what it becomes. See, the goal of the synthetic was to get it from something with a 3rd power to something smaller.
Here is another way to look at it: https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vrrjug5ned The top graph is what we got after we divided out 3, AKA: \((x-3)\). The bottom one is the other equation. See how they share two points on the x axis?
ohh okay. thank you very much :D
Yah, I find sometimes seeing it helos show what they mean by a root or a 0. It is when the y would become 0! I mean, that is simple enough, but when you see it and how one equation becomes the other as far as where they cross the 0 line, it makes more sense.
Now, you know how to finish that by putting the new equation in the quadratic... I hope. So the other question. It is simple... but will take a little work.
4th degree. You know what that part means?
i get how to do the rest of my hw but i really didn't understand how the degree works v.v
Degree is the highest power.
so like the max in a quadratic?
Hmmm... max would be the highest point on the graph.
x^10?
\(x^2\) is second degree.
\(x^{10}\) is 10th degree. So is \(92x^{10}+7x^5-x^3+7\). The degre is just the number of the highest exponent.
okay. i get it now
The 4th degree is in the form of \(ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx^1+ex^0\) And since \(x^1=x\) and \(x^0=1\) this is commonly shown as: \(ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e\) For it to be the 4th degree, a must be anything other than 0. If b, c, d, or e are 0, that term goes by-by, but it is still 4th degree.
So, now that we have flogged the degree issue to death! How to turn a bunch of roots into an equation. Do you have a guess? It is not hard. Really simple way to do it.
i understand the way you are explaining it to me. (:
Good!
you're a great teacher!!!!
Now, they gave you a list of zeros, right? -1 1 3 5. But what do you get your zeros from? When you find a zero and you say x=-1, how do you find that?
-1 l -1 1 3 5 -1 1 -2 -1 2 1 4 like that
No... this is the result of doing factoring. So like when they tell you to factor some equation and then say \(x=\{-1, 1, 3, 5\}\) at the end.
you plug it in
Hmm... Let me try a different direction. Lets start with this: If I said \(x-3=0\) solve for x, what would you do?
x=3
Right... so, if I said, x=3, solve for 0, you could see how this was taking that and going backwards so x=3, solve for 0, is x-3=0.
ohh i see
So the solution for 61 is: \(x=\{-1, 1, 3, 5\}\) solve for zeros, there are four of them! That gives you the four factors you need to multiply.
(x+1)(x-)(x-3)(x-5) x^(4)-8x^(3)+14x^(2)+8x-15
I didn't multiply it all out myself, but if you did that stp right, it should be the answer.
okay :D
Tossed it in an algebra solver. Looks good. Now, the first part of this exercise was all about finding zeros from a polynomial. This second part was about finding a polynomial from the zeros. This is a big deal in math: For any process, there is a reverse! So a+b is addition, and a-b is subtraction. Addition is the reverse of subtraction or subtraction is the reverse of addition. All this is doing is showing you the same sort of forward and backwards relationship between polynomials and zeros.
ohh okay
I bring up the + and - to show you how far back they have been doing this. \(\times\) and \(\div\) are the same sort of thing. Functions and inverse functions. You might have seen trig functions like sine. That has an inverse called arcsine. If not, you will get it taught to you later. In every part of math, they do this.
sec, cot, cos, tan, sin, i'm missing one
csc
ohh yeah!!
Kk. My point is, remember that when you learn things in math. If they show you doing something forwards, you can count on it that backwards is soon to follow. It can help the learning if you know what is coming next.
okay. i'll remember. you taught me a lot!!!
Well, the goal is to have you connect with the math a bit better. Then you can do the work yourself. Have fun!
haha i will and thank you so much!!
nice writeup @e.mccormick
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