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OpenStudy (anonymous):

Improper integral

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Do I have to split this improper integral in 2 to solve it? \[\int\limits_{0}^{1}\frac{ dx }{ x^2-1 }\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ex at 1/2?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{y \rightarrow 1^+}\int\limits\limits_{0}^{y}\frac{ dx }{ x^2-1 }\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

take integral by partial fraction, to me.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\left[ \frac{ \ln(x-1) }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(x+1) }{ 2 } \right]_{0}^{y}\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

Absolute value for terms after ln. plug values of limits in ,then plug all them after lim to caclculate

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\lim_{y \rightarrow 1^+}\left[ \frac{ \ln(y-1) }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(y+1) }{ 2 } \right]-\left[ \frac{ \ln(0-1) }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(0+1) }{ 2 } \right]\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

absolute value, please. ln|y-1| , take 1/2 out first, and then plug y =1 into there to take lim. that's it

OpenStudy (loser66):

ln1 =0, right?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yes

OpenStudy (loser66):

ok, go ahead, just one more step. you get the answer.

OpenStudy (loser66):

got what I mean?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes am with you.. the result is -∞

OpenStudy (loser66):

how? the result in book? oops!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

2 sec.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

This is an upper limit now, so understand why the limit is actually from the left this time and not from the right :) \[\Large \lim_{y \rightarrow \color{red}{1^-}}\int\limits\limits_{0}^{y}\frac{ dx }{ x^2-1 }\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

go ahead, @terenzreignz , please

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

I was just pointing out a minor error... I'm not even sure it affects much... didn't you two already finish? It seemed like it :P

OpenStudy (loser66):

I don't know, to me, it is = -ln 2/2 ,but he said that it is = - infinite. eeeehhh.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Okay, let's do this again :D \[\large \int\limits_{0}^{1}\frac{ dx }{ x^2-1 }\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Splitting it into partial fractions... \[\large \frac1{x^2-1}= \frac12\left[\frac{1}{x-1}-\frac{1}{x+1}\right]\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So we integrate this instead... \[\Large\int\limits_0^1 \frac{dx}{x^2-1}= \frac12\int\limits_0^1\left[\frac{1}{x-1}-\frac{1}{x+1}\right]dx\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

We get... \[\Large \frac12\left[\ln(x-1)-\ln(x+1)\right]_0^1\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Or rather... \[\Large \lim_{b\rightarrow1^-}\frac12\left[\ln(x-1)-\ln(x+1)\right]_0^b\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Everything fine up to here? Please check. I'm oh-so prone to errors :3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It looks great.

OpenStudy (loser66):

so far so good, friend

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Wait, I forgot absolute value. ... Let's not forget that \[\Large \int \frac1xdx = \ln|x|+C\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large \lim_{b\rightarrow1^-}\frac12\left[\ln|x-1|-\ln|x+1|\right]_0^b\] Much better.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

It does... otherwise, we'd get ln of a negative 1. \[\Large \lim_{b \rightarrow 1^-}\left[ \frac{ \ln(y-1) }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(y+1) }{ 2 } \right]-\left[ \frac{ \color{red}{\ln(0-1)} }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(0+1) }{ 2 } \right]\]

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large \lim_{b \rightarrow 1^-}\left[ \frac{ \ln|b-1| }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln|b+1| }{ 2 } \right]-\left[ \frac{ \color{red}{\ln|0-1|} }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln|0+1| }{ 2 } \right]\]

OpenStudy (loser66):

yes, you are right for the second part. got you

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

So... Let's simplify. \[\Large \lim_{b \rightarrow 1^-}\left[ \frac{ \ln|b-1| }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln|b+1| }{ 2 } \right]-\color{red}{\left[ \frac{{\ln(1)} }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln(1) }{ 2 } \right]}\] and the part in red just becomes zero.

OpenStudy (loser66):

yup

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large \lim_{b \rightarrow 1^-}\left[ \frac{ \ln|b-1| }{ 2 } - \frac{ \ln|b+1| }{ 2 } \right]\] So everything's simpler now.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

\[\Large \lim_{b \rightarrow 1^-}\left[ \color{blue}{\frac{ \ln|b-1| }{ 2 }} - \color{green}{\frac{ \ln|b+1| }{ 2 }} \right]\] Blue part goes to negative infinity, green part goes to some constant \(\Large \frac{\ln(2)} {2}\) So the entire thingy goes to minus infinity :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Everything fine now? :D

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

Still no? :) This is a rough sketch of what ln looks like... |dw:1372766859331:dw|

OpenStudy (loser66):

oh yea, because lim ln 0 = - infinitive.

terenzreignz (terenzreignz):

|dw:1372766882249:dw|

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