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OpenStudy (anonymous):

could someone please help me with number 4b) in the attached file ? please and thank you :)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

OpenStudy (anonymous):

cross multiply

OpenStudy (anonymous):

when i checked the answer guide i was given by my teacher... it said (x+5) instead of (2x+10) to cross multiply

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\large \frac 1{2x + 10} \implies \frac 1{2(x+5)}\] do you see why now?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it doesn't really make any difference

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oohh.. so this is the answer it gives me in the guide.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think i'd like to object to that solution... i don't think 1/2(x+5) is equal to 1/x+ 5 riight @Hero ?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

inconsistently though, 2x + 10 gets brought back to the solution. this may be right...but i doubt it's a good solution...it uses too many segues

OpenStudy (anonymous):

segues?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yeah i got confused when i looked at it

OpenStudy (anonymous):

segues means it deviates from the direct solution a lot

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@xlegendx oh okay. so should i just stick to 2x+10

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i would have done this: \[\frac 1{2x + 10} < \frac 1{x+3}\] \[x + 3 < 2x + 10\] \[0 < 2x + 10 - x - 3\] \[0 < x + 7\] \[x > -7\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

then of course your limits are 2x + 10 = 0 and x + 3 = 0

OpenStudy (anonymous):

it gives the same answer with your solution guide

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so i suppose my earlier comment about its being wrong is wrong

hero (hero):

For some reason I started using equal signs toward the end

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i was thinking you intended that to see if the asker was really paying attention to the solution

OpenStudy (anonymous):

sorry... im getting a little lost. :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

we were just doing alternate solutions to the problem. showing you that there are more simple solutions than the one in your guide

OpenStudy (anonymous):

frankly, i think it made a typographical error...because mathematically, there is no way for 2 to disappear and reappear

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh okay. and yeah alright. i thought something about it looked funny :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

\[\frac{ 1 }{ 2x+10 }<\frac{ 1 }{ x+3 }\] then substract by \[\frac{ 1 }{ x+3 }\] you'll get \[\frac{ 1 }{ 2x+10 }-\frac{ 1 }{ x+3 }<0\] now add 'em \[\frac{ 1*(x+3) }{ (2x+10)(x+3) }-\frac{ (2x+10)*1 }{ (2x+10)(x+3) }<0\] \[\frac{ x+3-2x-10 }{ (2x+10)(x+3) }<0\] sums up every term \[\frac{ -x-7 }{ (2x+10)(x+3) }<0\] Multiply both sides by -2 and factorize 2x+10 by 2 \[\frac{ -2*(-x-7) }{ 2(x+5)(x+3) }<0\] do magic \[\frac{ x+7 }{ (x+5)(x+3) }<0\] Now to solve this you can use a method with a sign chart |dw:1373158276332:dw| (I don't know if you know how to use that chart, but i'll asume you do, if you don't, please tell me So, your answer will be x<-7 U -5<x<-3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

wow that was hard worked

hero (hero):

Other than the one @Umangiasd posted

OpenStudy (anonymous):

woaaah!! okay! wow thanks @xlegendx @Hero @Umangiasd

OpenStudy (anonymous):

interesting though is that even @Umangiasd 's solution doesn't show the disappearing 2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

You can't just go around cross multiplying when you have inequalities, care there!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-6 is greater than -7 though...

hero (hero):

The correct solution is here

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i meant x>-7, which is the solution you found before asdsad xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

that makes it correct then... -1/2 is greater than -1/3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

or maybe im wrong

OpenStudy (anonymous):

maybe we are all wrong here XD

hero (hero):

You're supposed to use @xlegendx method to find one of the x's. Then use critical points to find the rest.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

When you multiplied by 2.. wouldnt it be x+14 ... not x+7 ? :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

is it about time we called satellite @Umangiasd ? lol

OpenStudy (anonymous):

oh yes, i actually made a mistake when i multiplied by -2 you have to change the sign too you have \[\frac{ x+7 }{ (x+5)(x+3) }>0\] and using the chart you obtain the actual solution xD (use the positives)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i think this is beginning to get overcomplicated :))

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@xlegendx as much as i appreciate all the help from everyone... i agree with what you just said xD

OpenStudy (anonymous):

what's common with what we all said though is that x > -7 and -5 < x < -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

actually...im not sure with -5 < x < -3 since x > -7 doesn't fit there. man, i'm getting confused too

OpenStudy (anonymous):

here's the full answer the guide gave me :S

OpenStudy (anonymous):

alll i know is x > 7 and x \(\ne\) -5 and x\(\ne\) -3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

ah there it is

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Umangiasd just made a mistake in the range.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

yup xD when mutiplying by -2 in the large comment i made i keep the sign as < and should have turned it into > ^^!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

so problem solved (at least for us...i think @alexeis_nicole is still confused)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

i kinda am :S sorry!!

OpenStudy (anonymous):

do you get @Umangiasd solution? since it's the one closest to the guide

OpenStudy (anonymous):

soo.... if you multiply by -2 this is what it looks like right? \[-2\left( \frac{ -x-7 }{ 2(x+5)(x+3) } \right)\]

OpenStudy (anonymous):

nevermind im confused

hero (hero):

That solution is messed up. It' not right

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes and that is >0 then cancel the "2" and enter the minus you'll get \[\frac{ x+7 }{ (x+5)(x+3)}>0\] then use the chart, find the "pluses" and you'll obtain the same as wolfram

hero (hero):

The second step should be \[\frac{1}{x + 5} - \frac{2}{x + 3} < 0\]

hero (hero):

I'm referring to the solution that @alexeis_nicole posted originally

OpenStudy (anonymous):

@Umangiasd :)

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