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OpenStudy (anonymous):

If you have for Descartes Rules of Sign 1 positive zero and 2 or 0 negative roots. What is your complex root?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

The Descartes rule of signs gives you the potential number of positive, negative and complex roots. It doesn't give the specific roots.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Are you asking what is the number of potential complex roots?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

If so, what degree is the polynomial?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

3

OpenStudy (anonymous):

It is f(x)=x^3-x^2-6x-70

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Ok, you have a 3rd degree polynomial that has 3 roots. By Descartes, you have a potential 1 positive root and a potential 2 or 0 negative roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yes

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

So this is really a find the roots problem...

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Remember that if you have a polynomial with real corefficients, if there are complex roots, they come is pairs of two complex conjugate roots.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

Now you can use rational root theorem to suss out your real root. It will be one of the factors (positive or negative) of 70.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Possibilities: 1 positive root, 2 negative roots 1 positive root, 2 complex roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So there are 3 zeros and that means there are 3 complex roots?

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

3 complex roots is not an option in a polynomial with only real coefficients.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

No. You can't have 3 complex roots bec complex roots must come in multiples of 2.

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

they always come in pairs: \(a \pm bi\) where \(i = \sqrt{-1}

OpenStudy (whpalmer4):

ackthpth. \(i = \sqrt{-1}\)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok let's start small. Because the Fundamental Theorem says there are 3 total zeros

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how many complex zeros are there?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

That's good. 1. There are 3 roots in total. 2. The roots are potentialy:1 positive root and 2 or zero negatice roots. Ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Ok

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

That's good. 1. There are 3 roots in total. 2. The roots are potentialy: 1 positive root and 2 or zero negative roots. Ok?

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how do I know how many complex roots are there?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Remember, complex roots must come in pairs. You can't have just one copmplex root.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

With this in mind, let's go over the possibilities of what the roots may be.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

1 positive root, 2 negative roots, 0 complex roots 1 positive root, 0 negative roots, 2 complex roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So 2 complex roots

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Or is it 2 or 0 complex roots

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

We don't know. Descartes tells us the potential roots, not definite. We definitely will have 1 positive root. The other two will be either two negative roots or two complex roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

So how do we find out?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

The reason 1 positive root is definite, is that there is no other way of figuring it out, once you put together the potential negative of complex roots.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

The only way to find out is to find the actual roots. Since one root is positive, start looking for it as a factor of 70, using synthetic division.

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Once you find the positive root, then you divide the polynomial to get a quadratic. Then you can use the quadratic formula to find the other two roots.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-5 is a root

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I turned it to 5 and used synthetic

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and got no remainders making it a zero

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

-5 is not a root, but 5 is.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Yeah sorry

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Good. Now what did you get as the quotient of the synthetic division? That is the new quadratic polynomial that you need to use the quadratic formula with.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

I got x^2+4x-14

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Good. Now use the quadratic formula.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

x=2.24 x=−6.24

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Can't be. You got 1 positive and 1 negative roots of the quadratic. That would make 2 positive and 1 negative roots in total. That's not one of our possibilities. The roots of the quadratic must be either both negative or both complex.

OpenStudy (anonymous):

−2±32√2

OpenStudy (anonymous):

and 2+-32sq2

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

Sorry. I looked quickly and didn't notice your mistake above. The quadratic is x^2 + 4x + 14, not - 14

OpenStudy (anonymous):

-(-x+3 sqrt(2)-2) (x+3 sqrt(2)+2)

OpenStudy (anonymous):

Is that it?

OpenStudy (mathstudent55):

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